[longviewJoe]

Originally Posted by googoogirl

lived in vegas for about 1 year.


1st day rear ended by an impaired driver.


heat in summer causes insane heat to radiate from pavement/concrete at night - the whole of las vegas is paved.


meth heads EVERYWHERE [convenience store, gas stations etc] both sides [east and west] of the strip.


certainly not as wealthy as SOCAL - most workers were either illegal or from the rust belt.


if you like casinos certainly move there [entertainment, gambling, eating out all safest in casinos] if you do not like casinos do not move there.


wages NOT high in las vegas - you can be paid much more in los angeles.

Sounds like you didn't like it. That's a bummer. I have lived in Los Angeles and would never want to go back there so to me anything is better than LA but I hear ya. Some people like the smog, traffic, over-priced everything, etc.... To each their own!

[Oistrakh12]

Originally Posted by googoogirl

lived in vegas for about 1 year.


1st day rear ended by an impaired driver.


heat in summer causes insane heat to radiate from pavement/concrete at night - the whole of las vegas is paved.


meth heads EVERYWHERE [convenience store, gas stations etc] both sides [east and west] of the strip.


certainly not as wealthy as SOCAL - most workers were either illegal or from the rust belt.


if you like casinos certainly move there [entertainment, gambling, eating out all safest in casinos] if you do not like casinos do not move there.


wages NOT high in las vegas - you can be paid much more in los angeles.

True. I pass by a major accident pretty much every day. Gotta be cautious driving at night due to so many drunk drivers.

[Mariza160]

Originally Posted by googoogirl

lived in vegas for about 1 year.
certainly not as wealthy as SOCAL - most workers were either illegal or from the rust belt.
if you like casinos certainly move there [entertainment, gambling, eating out all safest in casinos] if you do not like casinos do not move there.
wages NOT high in las vegas - you can be paid much more in los angeles.

Not that you're biased at all. You can get paid a higher salary in LA but then
you're paying more out for rent, real estate taxes, the 13% state income tax
and so on. So yes, you would need to have a higher salary in LA just to meet
basic standards. I prefer to live in Las Vegas, pay less on my taxes, have more
of my money go to savings, and have a house twice as large (as LA) for half the
price.

Workers here come from all over...international as well as domestic.
Some even bring their jobs with them, what a shocker.

I'm not sure why I even bother replying to some of these trolls..it's like
they pull some static description of Las Vegas out of a trash rag from 10
years ago and repeat it ad naseum with no actual basis in reality.

[JonathanLB]

Originally Posted by longviewJoe

Sounds like you didn't like it. That's a bummer. I have lived in Los Angeles and would never want to go back there so to me anything is better than LA but I hear ya. Some people like the smog, traffic, over-priced everything, etc.... To each their own!

LOL exactly. I couldn't get out of Los Angeles fast enough. While I enjoyed the aspects of living downtown like walking to LA Live, and some good restaurants, the fact is there's WAY more to do here in Vegas that doesn't take hours of sitting in traffic. I also didn't enjoy being assaulted in downtown, didn't enjoy it costing about $6,000 per month to live as a single guy when I spend that now as a married guy and live a life of luxury, versus eating cheaply and doing nothing in LA for the same price.

I guess you could say LA is great to live in if you are worth about $100M, but... it isn't, because then you're an idiot who is paying unnecessary taxes despite obviously not having to live there. So there's really nobody where that city is actually a good fit, in my opinion. Either it's too expensive if you're poor or middle class, or you can afford to live there... but... why?!

[apple92680]

Originally Posted by JonathanLB

LOL exactly. I couldn't get out of Los Angeles fast enough. While I enjoyed the aspects of living downtown like walking to LA Live, and some good restaurants, the fact is there's WAY more to do here in Vegas that doesn't take hours of sitting in traffic. I also didn't enjoy being assaulted in downtown, didn't enjoy it costing about $6,000 per month to live as a single guy when I spend that now as a married guy and live a life of luxury, versus eating cheaply and doing nothing in LA for the same price.

I guess you could say LA is great to live in if you are worth about $100M, but... it isn't, because then you're an idiot who is paying unnecessary taxes despite obviously not having to live there. So there's really nobody where that city is actually a good fit, in my opinion. Either it's too expensive if you're poor or middle class, or you can afford to live there... but... why?!

So did you move to Las Vegas from LA, or Portland, Oregon?

Because your post history seems to indicate you left Portland for Las Vegas, rather than LA?

[ADI-AVENTADOR]

Vegas has a lot of good things going for it, and like any American city there are problems.

[JonathanLB]

Originally Posted by apple92680

So did you move to Las Vegas from LA, or Portland, Oregon?

Because your post history seems to indicate you left Portland for Las Vegas, rather than LA?

Born in Portland, lived there until 2001, then spent about 9 months in LA (first stint) for college, then back to Oregon 2002-2007, and moved to LA where I lived until mid-2011. I met my wife on a leisure trip back to Portland in 2011 and I ended up sticking up there (wasn’t happy about it) because my wife’s family is there, she was in school, etc. Finally escaped in 2019 to Vegas. The original plan was to leave LA for Vegas in 2012, but the wife was a good, worthwhile 7 year detour back to dreary Portland. So I’ve lived in LA twice, but the first barely counts.

[WisconsinVegasHeights]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

I have been around a bit.

Born in upper Manhattan.

Moved to rural Ohio for a couple of years as a toddler.

Grew up in Louisville Ky...K-11.

Did a year with my Aunt on Long Island...12th grade.

Moved to Queens NYC for a couple of years. Then up to the upper Bronx for 4 years. Went to Manhattan College. Neat to be able to walk to school.

Married my high school sweetheart in 62. Lived in the basement apartment at the house in the Bronx.

Graduated with an EE degree in 63.

On graduating moved with wife to Rochester and Xerox.

Lived in Rochester for almost a decade. Than moved to S. CA.

Lived in S. CA for 5years.

Back to Rochester for 4 years

Back to S CA. until 1996. Retired.

Moved to Las Vegas after rejecting Maui and Scottsdale AZ.

Have now lived in LV for 25 years...longer than I have lived anywhere else.

So I know a number of climates very well. And I could live in any of them again. But LV is home and I believe the best tradeoff other than multiple homes. My legs are bad so I do not consider anywhere with snow or ice. I know that climate well from Rochester but no way with trouble walking.

I am certainly younger than you but I have lived more places than your average 49 year old. Of course, being single for the last 25 years has made the majority of that rapid fire relocating possible and a travelling job I did from late 2007 to early 2010.

Lots of time back and forth from CA and WI from 1980 to 1990. Brooklyn for a year due to work sending me there. Lovely Lincoln, Nebraska...not so much! Parts of that state were rather bleak in my opinion, especially the farther west you go. It should be called the "windy" state.

Shiloh, Illinois. That is across the river from St. Louis and statistically East Saint Louis, Illinois is much more blighted and dangerous than Las Vegas or South central L.A. I do believe that several potholes in East Saint Louis attempted to eat or at least immobilize my vehicle. Rockford comes in second for potholes.

Shiloh - 2007
Rockford - 2007 - 2008

Southern NH - 1999-2000

Anchorage - 2010-2011

Upper peninsula of Michigan - Winter of 2008/2009. Thanks company for sending me up there at the worst possible time and renting me a rear wheel drive vehicle!

Minneapolis from 2011 to 2013.

[JonathanLB]

Originally Posted by googoogirl

lived in vegas for about 1 year.


1st day rear ended by an impaired driver.


heat in summer causes insane heat to radiate from pavement/concrete at night - the whole of las vegas is paved.


meth heads EVERYWHERE [convenience store, gas stations etc] both sides [east and west] of the strip.


certainly not as wealthy as SOCAL - most workers were either illegal or from the rust belt.


if you like casinos certainly move there [entertainment, gambling, eating out all safest in casinos] if you do not like casinos do not move there.


wages NOT high in las vegas - you can be paid much more in los angeles.

This just sounds like the perspective of a poor person complaining that Vegas is poor, which it'd be more accurate to say that you're poor. If you live where I do, every neighborhood near me is full of $1M houses or more, Ascaya is down the road where you can't even buy a lot short of $1.5M let alone a house. The only casino near is Green Valley Ranch and it's very nice, but I don't ever just go there to hang out. Casinos are a total non-factor in daily life unless you need a job at one of them. Otherwise, go to them, avoid them, do whatever you want to do it's up to you.

The wages in LA may be higher but the cost of living is insane. My house would be a $5M house in Los Angeles and it's a $1M house here, so I couldn't even afford to live the way I do anywhere in Los Angeles. Not to mention the quality of life is downright pathetic in LA. If you like to go out, well I hope you're a morning person, everything closes extremely early. I can't count how many times I got kicked out of a bar closing early around 1:05 a.m. and thought, huh, guess I'll go home and watch a movie and drink for the rest of the night since they've decided to call it a night about when grandpa goes to bed LOL. LA is loaded with great restaurants and entertainment, it's just not really ever worth going to any of it because the traffic is terrible.

I will count my blessings that most people like mediocre weather, because I like really nice weather, so the whole 70 degree days in June thing in LA got old real fast. I expect SUMMER swimming weather by June, I don't want to see days below 90, and here, I don't. It's nice and warm every day.

But you're right, if you're a low wage employee who needs a service job or has to deal with the heat every day, gee, guess LA is a fantastic place. For me, my money goes further here and I live like a king.

[airics]

Originally Posted by JonathanLB

LOL exactly. I couldn't get out of Los Angeles fast enough. While I enjoyed the aspects of living downtown like walking to LA Live, and some good restaurants, the fact is there's WAY more to do here in Vegas that doesn't take hours of sitting in traffic. I also didn't enjoy being assaulted in downtown, didn't enjoy it costing about $6,000 per month to live as a single guy when I spend that now as a married guy and live a life of luxury, versus eating cheaply and doing nothing in LA for the same price.

I guess you could say LA is great to live in if you are worth about $100M, but... it isn't, because then you're an idiot who is paying unnecessary taxes despite obviously not having to live there. So there's really nobody where that city is actually a good fit, in my opinion. Either it's too expensive if you're poor or middle class, or you can afford to live there... but... why?!

yet most people will say they love LA, just because its in Cali. Vegas offers the best bang for the buck... and Im going to say this almost nationwide. Throw Cali and NY out of the equation, and Vegas is only slightly more than other places including Florida. Ive been to LA a few times, I don't get it... the place is dump infested with traffic and smog.

I especially like the comment that jobs pay more in LA... of course they do... but the cost of living is triple if not more... and also in the comment is that if you don't like to gamble or casinos, Vegas isn't the place for you... Not true at all, My wife and I don't gamble, it was a great place.

We are now here in Florida to be closer to her parents (they are 89). If it wasn't for them or my health, I'd be on my way back to Vegas or somewhere close to that...