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I've lived in Indianapolis my entire life (minus 10 years spent in Bloomington) and I've never experienced any of this stuff. I kind of find it hard to believe to be honest with you. Cross burnings? Maybe 100 years ago...
I recall cross burnings as a kid growing up in Indianapolis. There have been more recent cross burnings since then.
He won Indiana 49.95% to 48.91%. The only state that Obama won by less was North Carolina, 49.7% to 49.38%. A win is a win, and in the context the comment was made, that is all that matters.
No, the context of the comment suggested that Indiana is a liberal leaning state since Obama won Indiana in the 2008 election. This is pretty far from the truth, Indiana is a conservative leaning or solid state.
If Mitch Daniels is your idea of a conservative, Indiana isn't all that conservative. Any state that voted for Obama isn't all that conservative because Obama is obviously an ultra leftwing partisan.
Mitch Daniels was a moderate Republican. However, he isn't governor anymore, Mike Pence is a conservative Republican, extremely conservative.
So you're saying that North Carolina isn't that conservative?
Indiana isn't that conservative?
Virginia isn't that conservative? You know Indiana and North Carolina both went red again in 2012...it really is silly to label an entire state as red or blue based on electoral college elections.
Those states have been moving to the left for quite awhile due to all the liberal transplants.
Of course, Obama did run as a moderate and the fact so many white people wanted to vote for the first black president biased them toward looking at his real beliefs on things. Obviously the fact Obama got out the black and minority vote like nobody else before has makes it hard to know how these states will play in the future. I hope they are still conservative but I think America is becoming Europe, sadly.
I didn't realize Pence was the governnor now. That is a huge upgrade. I consider Daniels a liberal....DanielsCare sounds conservative on the face but it really encourages more government expansion, more people enrolled in Medicaid. It is nearly as bad as RomneyCare and Obamacare. The myth of Daniels is he is a fiscal conservative.
The demographics of the country has undergone a change and will continue to change.
I've lived in Indianapolis my entire life (minus 10 years spent in Bloomington) and I've never experienced any of this stuff. I kind of find it hard to believe to be honest with you. Cross burnings? Maybe 100 years ago...
The question would be, where in Indianapolis? I grew up on the Southside, which was horribly racist and intolerant from what I recall.
Go further south to Greenwood or Whiteland and it was even worse.
The question would be, where in Indianapolis? I grew up on the Southside, which was horribly racist and intolerant from what I recall.
Go further south to Greenwood or Whiteland and it was even worse.
RM
Grew up on the east side (Irvington and Warren Township). Also lived in Greenwood and worked in Whiteland for about a year. Maybe I was just lucky to avoid seeing that stuff. I don't know. Sorry you were exposed to that kind of crap.
Grew up on the east side (Irvington and Warren Township). Also lived in Greenwood and worked in Whiteland for about a year. Maybe I was just lucky to avoid seeing that stuff. I don't know. Sorry you were exposed to that kind of crap.
I should probably clarify that a little.
I grew up in the area around Thompson and Meridian. Lots of first generation Germans in the area who seemed to be pretty tolerant. As I recall, the farther south you went the worse it got.
I can recall seeing a cross burning in Greenwood in the late 70s. I knew a guy on the fire department, who happened to be there but didn't put out the fire. I saw him a few days later and asked him why they let the cross burn. His response was that they were only there to make sure it didn't catch anything else on fire and that they didn't dare intervene.
I mean absolute no disrespect to people who are from Indiana or who enjoy living here, but I have to admit that the time I've lived here, I've been the most unhappiest. The people are just not what I'm used to - they're very cliquish and standoffish. We've lived here for many years and still only know a few people - ironically, the people we do know are from out of state as well.
I got used to the land being so flat and seeing cornfields everywhere I went, but it doesn't feel like home - it feels more like a prison. I'm perplexed because I've been to neighboring states (OH, IL and MI) and don't get the same vibe as in Indy.
Where I'm from, if you make eye contact with someone you don't know, you smile and acknowledge that person. Here if you make eye contact with someone, he/she just glares back. It's eerie.
My husband is being transferred to TX within the next 2 years and will be happy to move. I won't have any desire to ever come back or will I miss anything about Indiana. Again, not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to understand why things are the way they are
Also, the food is very bland here. I don't understand why they cut their pizza in little squares and not slices - I had never seen that before!!
I'm posting out of frustration. I do want to enjoy my time here, and I have tried. Anyone else experience this?
My husband moved me here after he was discharged from the navy, He worked for Major auto company before he enlisted so he had job waiting when he got home. Originally I am from CT, used to work in RCA building NYC, I really miss the ocean.
I came here six months before husbands discharge, lived at his parents home, and realized the state of Indiana was a state of control, change in the society is not tolerated. My husbands 3.5 years in the navy while we were married was not a good experience, he was gone from the evening we married to his discharge 3.5 years later, he came home ill, In the refit before he was discharged he was kept on duty 106 hours straight, he had not had leave or R&R and spent time with me in that time, explained as the needs of the navy, the pshycolgist that talked to him after he was kept awake so long said he should never go back to sea but the command made him do one more patrol.
He came home with honorable discharge in hand, very tired, very much in need of time, we had been notified by the Navy that he was coming home with a diagnosis of exhaustive parinioa, today its called ptsd. Three days before he arrived here his mother and father asked me to sit with them and we would talk about what would happen when my husband got home. I was very happy he was coming until his father started to tell me what was expected, his father said there are a few thing my son is going to want when he gets here, top of the list is he is coming home with about 6000.00 and wants to take a couple of weeks off before going back to his old job. This can't be allowed.
He said he has to go back his first day back, then his father said he has built senority while in service, when he goes back he will be able to bump, shifts, take the vacations he wants, the jobs he wants, and refuse the hours he doesn't want. He will mess up many younger people with less time than he's got up, you have to understand my son has bucked the system of society here for years before he met you, this also can't be allowed, then his father said you will be moving into other place but you have to control my son, to many can be affected by his wants, then he told me that if I did not do as required he would see to it the state had control over both of us.
He had to spend the first morning home on a sofa instead of with me. I did not see him until the next day because his father shoved him out the door to go back to HR. They put him on second shift 12 hour days 100% weekends. The next day we found an apartment. got our things sent up the next day. I hugged my husband but could not allow a husband wife relation because I was scared of the threat of being a guest of the state and denial was the only tool I had. That worked the next 16 years. I wanted to be his wife in fact, he would plead cry and argue the point, He tried to bump shifts one time, the lowest senority on the job was a young single mother who's father knew my father in law. FIL showed up and told my husband to remove his name and stay where he was at. The resulting argument bought neighbors over. His father said think about me. how much disruption meant to my schedule, I knew at that point my husband filed for divorce and was turned down by the state because by this time I was diagnosed as Bi Polar and Indiana did not want the expense of my care. So my honorable husband stayed in a god awful situation. As a bi polar I was also hyper sexual. I had affairs to see to my needs. This was considered no big deal.
At the 16 year point things changed husband had a cyst removed off his brain stem relieving high cerebral spinal fluid pressure, Started deciding things without caring who or what his decisions affected, he decided two months after that surgery that he was taking a new job at a new plant, however the son of the president of the county council wanted that job, he had 12 years less time than my husband, Everyone wanted my husband to back off, but husband used his rights and the contract and took the job, that night the young man showed up with 3 friends to tell my husband he was taking his name off the job, husband told them what they could do. they attacked him. he put all four into trauma center.
Part of the reason husband was not well liked is many considered him dangerous because of his training. he held a 3rd dan black belt in sho rey, served as Battle field Intell analyst in the army, and was airborn, airmobile qualified, that was before I met him, in the navy he was an FTB trident, qualified nuclear weapons security, Explosive ordanance disposal, Radiation and chemical control qualified as well as wearing the dolphins of a submariner fully qualified.
He still speaks against this society. I beg him not to, but he has notified me I have nothing to say any more, when I do speak up, he points to the door and says you don't like it there's the door, I will find a woman that wants me. This hurts, I have always wanted him. Just could not let him have his way, he now knows about my affairs, just about every word is venom. With others watching and warning me if he gets what he wants that will mean he will go to jail, the man I married hates me because I have to keep him in line with what this society requires and I am failing bad, I hate this state.
My husband moved me here after he was discharged from the navy, He worked for Major auto company before he enlisted so he had job waiting when he got home. Originally I am from CT, used to work in RCA building NYC, I really miss the ocean.
I came here six months before husbands discharge, lived at his parents home, and realized the state of Indiana was a state of control, change in the society is not tolerated. My husbands 3.5 years in the navy while we were married was not a good experience, he was gone from the evening we married to his discharge 3.5 years later, he came home ill, In the refit before he was discharged he was kept on duty 106 hours straight, he had not had leave or R&R and spent time with me in that time, explained as the needs of the navy, the pshycolgist that talked to him after he was kept awake so long said he should never go back to sea but the command made him do one more patrol.
He came home with honorable discharge in hand, very tired, very much in need of time, we had been notified by the Navy that he was coming home with a diagnosis of exhaustive parinioa, today its called ptsd. Three days before he arrived here his mother and father asked me to sit with them and we would talk about what would happen when my husband got home. I was very happy he was coming until his father started to tell me what was expected, his father said there are a few thing my son is going to want when he gets here, top of the list is he is coming home with about 6000.00 and wants to take a couple of weeks off before going back to his old job. This can't be allowed.
He said he has to go back his first day back, then his father said he has built senority while in service, when he goes back he will be able to bump, shifts, take the vacations he wants, the jobs he wants, and refuse the hours he doesn't want. He will mess up many younger people with less time than he's got up, you have to understand my son has bucked the system of society here for years before he met you, this also can't be allowed, then his father said you will be moving into other place but you have to control my son, to many can be affected by his wants, then he told me that if I did not do as required he would see to it the state had control over both of us.
He had to spend the first morning home on a sofa instead of with me. I did not see him until the next day because his father shoved him out the door to go back to HR. They put him on second shift 12 hour days 100% weekends. The next day we found an apartment. got our things sent up the next day. I hugged my husband but could not allow a husband wife relation because I was scared of the threat of being a guest of the state and denial was the only tool I had. That worked the next 16 years. I wanted to be his wife in fact, he would plead cry and argue the point, He tried to bump shifts one time, the lowest senority on the job was a young single mother who's father knew my father in law. FIL showed up and told my husband to remove his name and stay where he was at. The resulting argument bought neighbors over. His father said think about me. how much disruption meant to my schedule, I knew at that point my husband filed for divorce and was turned down by the state because by this time I was diagnosed as Bi Polar and Indiana did not want the expense of my care. So my honorable husband stayed in a god awful situation. As a bi polar I was also hyper sexual. I had affairs to see to my needs. This was considered no big deal.
At the 16 year point things changed husband had a cyst removed off his brain stem relieving high cerebral spinal fluid pressure, Started deciding things without caring who or what his decisions affected, he decided two months after that surgery that he was taking a new job at a new plant, however the son of the president of the county council wanted that job, he had 12 years less time than my husband, Everyone wanted my husband to back off, but husband used his rights and the contract and took the job, that night the young man showed up with 3 friends to tell my husband he was taking his name off the job, husband told them what they could do. they attacked him. he put all four into trauma center.
Part of the reason husband was not well liked is many considered him dangerous because of his training. he held a 3rd dan black belt in sho rey, served as Battle field Intell analyst in the army, and was airborn, airmobile qualified, that was before I met him, in the navy he was an FTB trident, qualified nuclear weapons security, Explosive ordanance disposal, Radiation and chemical control qualified as well as wearing the dolphins of a submariner fully qualified.
He still speaks against this society. I beg him not to, but he has notified me I have nothing to say any more, when I do speak up, he points to the door and says you don't like it there's the door, I will find a woman that wants me. This hurts, I have always wanted him. Just could not let him have his way, he now knows about my affairs, just about every word is venom. With others watching and warning me if he gets what he wants that will mean he will go to jail, the man I married hates me because I have to keep him in line with what this society requires and I am failing bad, I hate this state.
during the 31 years before he was force to retire my husband averaged 1 day off every four years, his average workday was 12.65 hrs I cant remember him having one holiday off His Christmas and thanksgiving usually consisted of a sandwich delivery from home at the gate, several times he did not get that.
I just came to a decision, its probably going to land me in big trouble around here, several people have said the next time my husband tells them to get out of their face they will have to do something, I just told someone else that husband was right they had to get out of his and my face. It was his father. He is standing on the porch dumfounded and my husband talking to him, We have an issue my husband wont back down from, his father says he will, don't thinks he will.
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