Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 05-19-2010, 03:41 PM
 
11,715 posts, read 40,470,312 times
Reputation: 7586

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
I don't know if I want terminator touching my produce, I also don't know "how much further" along we actually are as a species. We are on the brink of self-inflicted extinction, the Greeks, Romans, and Byzantines never had to worry about that.
Oh, you're one of those people.

 
Old 05-19-2010, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Full time RV"er
2,404 posts, read 6,582,374 times
Reputation: 1497
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr5150 View Post
How exactly are illegals costing CA $10.5B?

They can't get welfare, Medi-Cal or Food Stamps.

It is easy to just spout a number, but facts are better.
The illegals maybe can't get all those benefits but their illegal kids can , why do you think the first thing they do is start a family?.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA / San Rafael, CA
2,352 posts, read 5,256,238 times
Reputation: 540
Yes, I appreciate the fine art of examining my surroundings.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: SW MO
23,593 posts, read 37,504,382 times
Reputation: 29337
Quote:
Originally Posted by ndfmnlf View Post
Let's assume your numbers are correct: 10 billion dollars cost by the illegals. They're consuming resources and not paying into the system. That's the argument, right?

Solution: legalize the illegals, then let them pay taxes. The 10 billion that they are consuming in services will now be recovered in the form of taxes.

You've just cut the deficit by half.
Outstanding! Reward illegality and lawlessness and give even more of them an incentive to overcrowd the country, suck up its resources and spawn still more to drown the schools and the rest of the infrastructure.

That's wise!
 
Old 05-19-2010, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
26,329 posts, read 93,811,699 times
Reputation: 17831
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighter 1 View Post
The illegals maybe can't get all those benefits but their illegal kids can , why do you think the first thing they do is start a family?.
Aren't those kids if born in the US, not illegal?
 
Old 05-19-2010, 03:57 PM
 
282 posts, read 382,810 times
Reputation: 178
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighter 1 View Post
The illegals maybe can't get all those benefits but their illegal kids can , why do you think the first thing they do is start a family?.
Kids born here are not illegal.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 04:06 PM
 
4,183 posts, read 6,528,283 times
Reputation: 1734
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
Outstanding! Reward illegality and lawlessness and give even more of them an incentive to overcrowd the country, suck up its resources and spawn still more to drown the schools and the rest of the infrastructure.

That's wise!
"Illegality" is a human concoction. Nothing that enlightened legislators can't change. Don't get too hung up on labels. Laws change all the time.

Let the "illegals" pay their way by making them legal, and start collecting taxes. You'll see the deficit cut substantially.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 04:13 PM
 
11,715 posts, read 40,470,312 times
Reputation: 7586
Quote:
Originally Posted by ndfmnlf View Post
"Illegality" is a human concoction. Nothing that enlightened legislators can't change. Don't get too hung up on labels. Laws change all the time.

Let the "illegals" pay their way by making them legal, and start collecting taxes. You'll see the deficit cut substantially.
I'll legalize them on the condition that they register with the government, take no social services for 15 years, and get deported in a heartbeat (no lengthy appeals) upon conviction of a felony or their second misdemeanor. Anyone found in this country illegally gets 20 years in a prison camp in the desert before being deported. Deal?
 
Old 05-19-2010, 04:14 PM
 
Location: SW MO
23,593 posts, read 37,504,382 times
Reputation: 29337
Quote:
Originally Posted by ndfmnlf View Post
"Illegality" is a human concoction. Nothing that enlightened legislators can't change. Don't get too hung up on labels. Laws change all the time.

Let the "illegals" pay their way by making them legal, and start collecting taxes. You'll see the deficit cut substantially.
It's only a human "concoction" to those who don't believe in the rule of law. Without any you have anarchy.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA / San Rafael, CA
2,352 posts, read 5,256,238 times
Reputation: 540
Quote:
Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia View Post
I'll legalize them on the condition that they register with the government, take no social services for 15 years, and get deported in a heartbeat (no lengthy appeals) upon conviction of a felony or their second misdemeanor. Anyone found in this country illegally gets 20 years in a prison camp in the desert before being deported. Deal?
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top