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View Poll Results: What state would you rather live in?
MI - Michigan 98 47.12%
IL - Illinois 110 52.88%
Voters: 208. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-29-2012, 10:04 PM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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Actually that is a good question. I would like to know where in IL there is anything like the UP as well.
Southern Illinois.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Southern Illinois.
Southern Illinois is pretty, but I don't think it's prettier than the UP. In the end, I think for most people it's moot, as they don't just live in a state because it's pretty...Otherwise places like Wyoming and Montana would have millions of people
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:55 AM
 
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Southern Illinois.
Southern Illinois is nothing like the UP. The UP has wolves, moose, mountains, real wilderness.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Southern Illinois is nothing like the UP. The UP has wolves, moose, mountains, real wilderness.
Well there are wolves in Illinois, but lol mountains??

The highest point in Michigan is < 2,000 ft above sea level.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:09 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Southern Illinois.
In all my travels through the Southern portion of IL have never seen anything like Pictured Rocks; the Seney Stretch; the Keweenaw or Garden Peninsulas; Whitefish point; the Western UP's uplands around Bessemer and Ironwood; or the beautiful north woods between Munising, Grand Marais, Whitefish Point, and Newberry. If you could please post up where I can find the same in Southern IL, I would appreciate it. Next time down there I can visit some great scenic areas instead of the areas I have seen so far in my travels. I would love to spend some time in the Southern Illinois equivalent of Pictured Rocks, that would be the best kept secret vacation spot in the US.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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Southern Illinois is pretty, but I don't think it's prettier than the UP. In the end, I think for most people it's moot, as they don't just live in a state because it's pretty...Otherwise places like Wyoming and Montana would have millions of people
You're also comparing a much larger landmass to a much smaller one.

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Southern Illinois is nothing like the UP. The UP has wolves, moose, mountains,
real wilderness.
I'm glad that we should all follow your guidelines of real wilderness.

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In all my travels through the Southern portion of IL have never seen anything like Pictured Rocks; the Seney Stretch; the Keweenaw or Garden Peninsulas; Whitefish point; the Western UP's uplands around Bessemer and Ironwood; or the beautiful north woods between Munising, Grand Marais, Whitefish Point, and Newberry. If you could please post up where I can find the same in Southern IL, I would appreciate it. Next time down there I can visit some great scenic areas instead of the areas I have seen so far in my travels. I would love to spend some time in the Southern Illinois equivalent of Pictured Rocks, that would be the best kept secret vacation spot in the US.
You're in luck, it is one of them.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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You're in luck, it is one of them.
So well kept I take it that you don't know where it is either, so you cannot enlighten those who are asking? Where in Southern IL (on ANY where in IL) is like the places I asked about? Simple question, why are you avoiding actually answering it?
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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MICHIGAN.

Beyond Chicagoland, IL is just plain boring. And "Blago" tainted Springfield, its capital.

Michigan has:
- a great university in U of M (one of the 3 best publics in America, along with UC Berkeley and Univ of Va.)
- nice suburbs in Detroit, that feel nothing like Detroit
- surrounded by water
- recreational areas in the Upper Peninsula are breathtaking
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:36 AM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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So well kept I take it that you don't know where it is either, so you cannot enlighten those who are asking? Where in Southern IL (on ANY where in IL) is like the places I asked about? Simple question, why are you avoiding actually answering it?
Trying to strongarm an answer out of someone wont work. You're a Michigan booster so you will only accept the answers that you want to hear.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Trying to strongarm an answer out of someone wont work. You're a Michigan booster so you will only accept the answers that you want to hear.
Not trying to "strong-arm" an answer out of you at all. You made the claim that Southern IL was just like the UP of Michigan, my travels tell me otherwise so I ask where it is the same. That isn't strong-arming anyone, that is asking you politely to back up your claims.

Simple reason is that you made a ridiculous statement that you and everyone else knows is false and you are not honest enough to admit it. Instead you toss out strawman arguments and accusations to try and draw the attention of your lies away from you. Prove those asking wrong, and simply post up a location. Simple. Either you are telling the truth and you can prove it, or you got caught in a lie; Not posting a location is proof of your lies. Asking for an answer isn't being a "Booster" that is asking for an answer.
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