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Old 01-26-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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You really think people won't vote for him? Don't forget. This country voted for Bush not only once but twice. People will vote for him despite his ugly history. We should be concerned.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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You really think people won't vote for him? Don't forget. This country voted for Bush not only once but twice. People will vote for him despite his ugly history. We should be concerned.
We deserved what we got with Bush and if we are dumb enough to elect a Gingrich, we would deserve what that would do to us as well.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:20 PM
 
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I know a lot of republicans who will vote D if Newt gets nominated--especially those of us old enough to remember him the first time around. Here's the difference--Bush was a lousy president, but he wasn't mean, and he wasn't a delusional, egomaniacle jerk. Newt is. I think you're underestimating just how sick of (and embarrassed) the more old school R's are by the constant name calling, theatrics, and hysteria of the tea party. Newt would take that garbage and amplify it by twenty. No thanks.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I know a lot of republicans who will vote D if Newt gets nominated--especially those of us old enough to remember him the first time around. Here's the difference--Bush was a lousy president, but he wasn't mean, and he wasn't a delusional, egomaniacal jerk. Newt is. I think you're underestimating just how sick of (and embarrassed) the more old school R's are by the constant name calling, theatrics, and hysteria of the tea party. Newt would take that garbage and amplify it by twenty. No thanks.
Clarification. Bush 41 is the subject, here. Has to be.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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We deserved what we got with Bush and if we are dumb enough to elect a Gingrich, we would deserve what that would do to us as well.
I think what Dole said today rings true, where are newt fellow house members rallying to his support???? If he was their leader why aren't they lining up to endorse him?
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Fargo, ND
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Obama has a billion dollars and not even all that money could pay for negative ads airing all of Newt's baggage.

Only candidates that are likable can overcome baggage, see Bill Clinton and even Bush to an extent.

All Newt would be is little ankle biting dog barking and nipping at Obama. It would be entertaining for a while I guess until he got smashed because few people really like the guy and going negative(which he is best at) just makes more people dislike him.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: So California
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I think what Dole said today rings true, where are newt fellow house members rallying to his support???? If he was their leader why aren't they lining up to endorse him?
Bob Done on Newt:

"In my run for the presidency in 1996 the Democrats greeted me with a number of negative TV ads and in every one of them Newt was in the ad," he wrote. Dole, who waged an unsuccessful bid for the presidency against President Clinton and was relentlessly attacked for his association with the former House speaker," Dole continued. "He was very unpopular and I am not only certain that this did not help me, but that it also cost House seats that year."
Read more: If ties weren't chilly before, Gingrich, Dole put relationship on ice - Fox News

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Old 01-26-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: MW
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Still on Bush?

Against him in 2000 was Al Gore.
Against him in 2004 was John Kerry.

Maybe if democrats had voted better people in to take on Bush, he wouldn't have won.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Still on Bush?

Against him in 2000 was Al Gore.
Against him in 2004 was John Kerry.

Maybe if democrats had voted better people in to take on Bush, he wouldn't have won.
Which is a lesson apparently the Republicans forgot for this election year.
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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You really think people won't vote for him? Don't forget. This country voted for Bush not only once but twice. People will vote for him despite his ugly history. We should be concerned.
First off I'm no Democrat. I'm sorta-right leaning Independent/former Republican.

If Gingrich gets the nomination the GOP is screwed. Here's the problems:
1.) The most conservative Americans will refuse to vote for Newt because of his many affairs and divorces. His propensity and skill at lying will also keep them home or voting 3rd party on election day.
2.) Anyone who remembers him from the 90's will have a hard time voting for him.
3.) Democrats and left-leaning independents remember Newtie and they hated him with a passion rarely seen from them. Left-leaning independents and Democrats that are a tad lazy about voting will turn out for sure to stop Newt Gingrich from becoming the President of the United States.
4.) A lot of Independent folks will just vote for a 3rd party rather than Newt Gingrich. I'm one of those. If it's a choice between Gingrich and Obama, I'll vote for a third party. Probably Libertarian. And I'm a "Anyone But Obama" guy. I just can't bring myself to vote for Newt Gingrich. It's just asking too much. I honestly thought it was a bad joke when he announced he was running. I never dreamed he could be the frontrunner.
5.) The damage is probably already done, but the GOP looks mind-mindbogglingly stupid chasing after a lecherous adulterous egotistical blowhard as though he was the bestest prize pony candidate ever for "the party of family values."

Right now, Gingrich is the front-runner. Ordinarily, this would give him a boost in head to head polling against Obama. It isn't. He is loses every head to head poll vs Obama ever taken. He's down by 11% in that category right now. Romney has remained locked in a virtual tie with Obama forever and still is. (Paul is the next closest after Romney.) There is a reason this poll result is so consistent. Newt would need a miracle to win the general election.
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