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Old 05-16-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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No Kool aid here, if you will read some of my post's, you will find out that I have said we DO need to change the health care system....just not with obamacare....

Lets take care of pre-existing conditions....
Would be completely taken care of with a UHC

But lets also take care of insurance...let it become like any other insurance....get it anywhere you want, any state and you will see a HUGE difference in the price.....
Taken care of with a UHC..... You can get treatment in any State at ANY TIME. The Insurance companies would still sell their cover but they would have to compete with the UHC so they would have to have premiums that people could afford and if people still want private insurance it will still be available.... best of both worlds......public and private.... your choice.
Just by having interstate competition will only reduce the premiums slightly.

I agree, it needs changed, but again, not with obamacare...
This bill is NOT Obamacare..... Obamacare would have been a UHC.... this bill is watered down Republican scare Bill.
Love how Republicans say they want to change health care and admit it needs changing but haven't got the inclination or the balls to make real change in case they upset their insurance mogul friends. The objectors have great healthcare so why the hell should they worry about their constituants.
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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STILL no real reasons put forward as to why people should vote Republican.... Obama Bashing is not a reason to vote for something worse. Exactly what has the Republican Party got to make people vote for them?
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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This bill is NOT Obamacare..... Obamacare would have been a UHC.... this bill is watered down Republican scare Bill.
Love how Republicans say they want to change health care and admit it needs changing but haven't got the inclination or the balls to make real change in case they upset their insurance mogul friends. The objectors have great healthcare so why the hell should they worry about their constituants.
Ah, so lets get this straight....

The repubs have the insurance guys, and the dems have the big pharm guys.....

Look, it needs changing....not obamacare not UHC....I don't care WHAT name you give it....that plan IS not what anyone wanted....that showed in the Novemebr 2010 election...it will show again in 2012....

Because you don't believe that Ryans plan is better, lets put Ryans plan up against obamas plan through the CBO....

Oh wait, it has been....Ryan pplan works obamas does not....

Good bye...
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Barack Obama will get re-elected, folks. I'm telling you it's going to be a long campaign season for Mitt Romney who will most likely win the nomination. Newt Gingrich is toast as are Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, and Michele Bachman. Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance, either. The only Republican candidate who's even halfway qualified if you ask me is Jon Huntsman. He's laying low.

If Romney is as smart as he thinks he is, he'd nominate Huntsman as his running mate. That man is too wishy washy on everything, though. The Iraq War is now over, and the economy is recovering thanks to Obama's stimulus plan. Like I said, it'll be a miracle if Romney or whomever even comes close.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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Barack Obama will undoubtedly get re-elected. The economy didn't recover overnight when he came into office, but he's already accomplished more in two years than Bush did in two terms. The Republicans haven't offered any solutions to fix the economy, either. Keep in mind Barack Obama will be the incumbent meaning he'll be harder to defeat than 2008. Don't be surprised if he wins by a landslide. I'm 80-percent sure this next election will be a runaway victory for the Democrats.

Also, the conservatives can't find anyone who measures up. Mike Huckabee already stated he probably won't run. That man has too many skeletons in his closet, furthermore. The guy is an right-wing evangelical Christian for one thing. Plus, he pardoned a guy who killed several people in Arkansas, and he has a son who was ousted as a Boy Scout leader for torturing puppies. Those alone are wild cards that will disqualify him from the race. Sarah Palin will be lucky if she even makes it to the primary. I'm sure she'll run to massage her Alaska-sized ego, too. Not even John McCain stood a chance playing his veteran card, so I'm positive the same is true about the other Republicans.

Barack Obama's ratings are now higher than that of either Clinton or Reagan around this time frame during their first terms. What you're also forgetting is there are more black voters than ever before. They'll probably pour into the polls more so than they did in 2008. Myriad Hispanic voters are disenchanted with the Republican Party as well. Not to mention recent college graduates like yours truly are disgusted over the way Republicans haven't done a damn thing about unemployment and even wanted to slash benefits for the 99ers. They're the ones that gave tax cuts to big businesses.

I'm hoping when Scott Walker gets recalled which I'm sure he will, our friends in Wisconsin will spark the catalyst towards something big. His being ousted will leave a bad headline for the Republicans and cost many of them their seats. I'm half-expecting the Democrats will regain control of both houses again after this whole debacle Bush got us into. Unless something terrible happens, I see no way he WILL NOT get re-elected end of story.
This message has been brought to you by the Joseph Goebbels propaganda ministry with assistance from Pelosi and the establishment of noecon Republicans

HEIL
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Austin
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This message has been brought to you by the Joseph Goebbels propaganda ministry with assistance from Pelosi and the establishment of noecon Republicans

HEIL
How does Barack Obama compare to Hitler, math whiz? He didn't exterminate anybody. In fact, he ended a war rather than started it. The only person whose death for which he's responsible that deserved it is Osama bin Laden.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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How does Barack Obama compare to Hitler, math whiz? He didn't exterminate anybody. In fact, he ended a war rather than started it. The only person whose death for which he's responsible that deserved it is Osama bin Laden.
If a Republican President signed the NDAA into law wouldn't you call him Hitler?
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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Barack Obama will undoubtedly get re-elected. The economy didn't recover overnight when he came into office, but he's already accomplished more in two years than Bush did in two terms. The Republicans haven't offered any solutions to fix the economy, either. Keep in mind Barack Obama will be the incumbent meaning he'll be harder to defeat than 2008. Don't be surprised if he wins by a landslide. I'm 80-percent sure this next election will be a runaway victory for the Democrats.

Also, the conservatives can't find anyone who measures up. Mike Huckabee already stated he probably won't run. That man has too many skeletons in his closet, furthermore. The guy is an right-wing evangelical Christian for one thing. Plus, he pardoned a guy who killed several people in Arkansas, and he has a son who was ousted as a Boy Scout leader for torturing puppies. Those alone are wild cards that will disqualify him from the race. Sarah Palin will be lucky if she even makes it to the primary. I'm sure she'll run to massage her Alaska-sized ego, too. Not even John McCain stood a chance playing his veteran card, so I'm positive the same is true about the other Republicans.

Barack Obama's ratings are now higher than that of either Clinton or Reagan around this time frame during their first terms. What you're also forgetting is there are more black voters than ever before. They'll probably pour into the polls more so than they did in 2008. Myriad Hispanic voters are disenchanted with the Republican Party as well. Not to mention recent college graduates like yours truly are disgusted over the way Republicans haven't done a damn thing about unemployment and even wanted to slash benefits for the 99ers. They're the ones that gave tax cuts to big businesses.

I'm hoping when Scott Walker gets recalled which I'm sure he will, our friends in Wisconsin will spark the catalyst towards something big. His being ousted will leave a bad headline for the Republicans and cost many of them their seats. I'm half-expecting the Democrats will regain control of both houses again after this whole debacle Bush got us into. Unless something terrible happens, I see no way he WILL NOT get re-elected end of story.
Excellent analysis.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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How does Barack Obama compare to Hitler, math whiz? He didn't exterminate anybody. In fact, he ended a war rather than started it. The only person whose death for which he's responsible that deserved it is Osama bin Laden.
The propaganda is as good at brainwashing Americans currently as Goebbels was in the 1930's on Germans

Obviously, the propaganda has worked on YOU because you have picked a side clue....they are the same thing these Dems and reps

That is the similarity.... ok sparky? Ok there math whiz?
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:58 PM
 
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No he won't.
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