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Old 09-06-2020, 09:37 PM
 
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Once again:
Its not about the young kids. We know their survival rates are much higher. It's when those kids bring the virus back home to their parents and other elderly members of their households. It's also those same kids giving the virus to their professors and support staff who also tend to be much older. What part of this are you repeatedly failing to understand???? It's really not rocket science as to why it's not a good idea to allow huge amounts of kids to get this regardless of if they are asymptomatic or not.
So we didn't care about this when it was the flu and people possibly killed them. Either way, let the young people get it and burn it out among themselves (herd immunity). In the long run they actually protect the elderly and high risk people.

It is a two way street, both parties have to be involved. So if someone who is high risk and 70 wants to hang out with a 20 year old then it is also on the 70 year old. I went from a so called "hot spot" a few months ago to visit a parent. I simply said it is up to you because you are high risk. It was their decision whether they wanted to see me. They would rather take a slight risk then never see their son again. People can make decisions, we don't need the f*** government to tell us what we do. If you are scared, then you stay at home in your closet or basement.

Do people really expect family members to distance themselves for years, holidays, or every time we have a virus. Further, many young people could always be sick and not know it, and it they aren't intentionally trying to hurt anyone. Should they stay away from their grandparents forever?

 
Old 09-06-2020, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Just got off the phone with my 52 year old cousin who got, and recovered from, coronavirus. At home, minor illness, like a cold basically. She quarantined, and no one else in her household ever tested positive. She never coughed much at all. Her biggest complaint was that she lost her senses of taste and smell (which are returning).

I also have a friend who tested positive. Her husband is 20 years older than her - she's 60 and he's 80. He also got it. Neither of them ever had to go to the hospital. However, the younger wife (with no comorbidities other than her age) ran a fever for a few days and felt run down for two weeks, then she felt fully recovered. Her husband never even ran a fever.

Maybe they were all just lucky, who knows.
 
Old 09-06-2020, 11:07 PM
 
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So we didn't care about this when it was the flu and people possibly killed them. Either way, let the young people get it and burn it out among themselves (herd immunity). In the long run they actually protect the elderly and high risk people.

"...let the young people get it and burn it out among themselves" shows you don't understand "herd immunity."
 
Old 09-07-2020, 03:40 PM
 
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NY Times has consolidated the data from the Coronavirus dashboards at colleges and universities. It's an easy way to track the many Texas schools. Some universities do not post their data publicly.

NY Times Coronavirus Case Tracker for US Colleges and Universities - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-tracker.html
 
Old 09-09-2020, 07:01 AM
 
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State supported living centers for younger people are still locked down.

Texans with developmental disabilities in state homes still don’t have visitors. Their parents worry they don’t know why.
Across Texas, families with loved ones in state supported living centers are desperate for in-person visits after months have ticked by with coronavirus restrictions in place.
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Stephanie Kirby saw her son Petre just three times in the past six months — visits that were possible only because he was in the hospital. Two of the hospital visits stemmed from Petre Kirby self-harming; the other was for a scheduled appointment.

Outside of those painful and brief visits, Stephanie Kirby is otherwise unable to hug, comfort or see in person her 28-year-old son, who has an intellectual disability and functions at the level of a 3-year-old. Petre Kirby has depression and post-traumatic stress disorder stemming from abuse and neglect he suffered before Stephanie Kirby adopted him when he was 6. He lives at the Denton State Supported Living Center, where visitation has been restricted since March because of COVID-19.

“I can understand COVID. I can understand what happened,” said Stephanie Kirby, who lives in Celina and acknowledges that safety precautions must be taken. But for her son, she worries “there's no way he could ever understand why his mom just never came back.”
 
Old 09-12-2020, 07:23 PM
 
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"...let the young people get it and burn it out among themselves" shows you don't understand "herd immunity."
Sweden. With essentially any virus you always tell the high risk people to be careful and then let the healthy people deal with it. After they survive it, less people to infect so it becomes less risky.

This is the first virus we decided to quarantine healthy people for no reason. Oh sorry, other than to scare everyone and to make all think its more deadly than it is.
 
Old 09-12-2020, 09:27 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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We need to stop comparing the US to Sweden. Sweden still saw a high death rate (around 6.7%). Sweden still has placed some restrictions on their population. Sweden’s population is generally healthier than the US population overall. Sweden is 30 times smaller than the US. You can’t compare the two countries. Sweden is not a gotcha in one’s argument about the US. Stop bringing up Sweden.
 
Old 09-12-2020, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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We need to stop comparing the US to Sweden. Sweden still saw a high death rate (around 6.7%). Sweden still has placed some restrictions on their population. Sweden’s population is generally healthier than the US population overall. Sweden is 30 times smaller than the US. You can’t compare the two countries. Sweden is not a gotcha in one’s argument about the US. Stop bringing up Sweden.
Agreed and over half of all adults in Sweden live alone, that's the highest number in the EU.
 
Old 09-12-2020, 10:51 PM
 
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Sweden. With essentially any virus you always tell the high risk people to be careful and then let the healthy people deal with it. After they survive it, less people to infect so it becomes less risky.

Nope. None of the experts in Sweden are claiming their plan ran with flying colors. They all admit that they made mistakes.


Most importantly, they do NOT claim that they've achieved herd immunity.
 
Old 09-12-2020, 11:41 PM
 
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Agreed and over half of all adults in Sweden live alone, that's the highest number in the EU.

Even the majority of those in relationships maintain separate residences.
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