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Old 06-25-2020, 11:55 AM
 
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He had also said in the last week of January that he does not foresee this virus becoming a major problem in the US.

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I would not say Dr Fauci is the best scientist in the world. His initial refusal of advising public to wear mask and the later explanation are troublesome or even disastrous. He may underestimate the virus at that time and he expected that he will get significant pushback from people if he mandate the mask wearing in US.

QUOTE=Ralph_Kirk;58471352]It would have helped if Fauci had not started with the lie that masks were useless.
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:58 AM
 
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Freedom seems to be have all sorts of meaning here... This case is so scary. Seems like they took all precautions and did their best but still got infected

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/no...e-f4437fe6f836
They did not take precautions. In the photo in the article, the family is indoors and squished together. They are not outside, not 6 feet apart, and not wearing masks. One family member had a cough that he blew off as nothing.

Regardless, this is a good wake-up call. We have been seeing family on occasion and try to stay six feet apart, no hugs or kisses, but no more. We can wait.
 
Old 06-25-2020, 11:59 AM
 
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I agree with your points about Fauci, but you do realize that the daily number of deaths all over US is trending downward; correct?

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It was disastrous. They didn't want the public to buy face masks because they were worried health care providers wouldn't get any, so they lied and said face masks were not effective. It was a dirty lie. Besides, the public should be able buy whatever they want, and if that means some healthcare providers don't get masks, then so be it. I think it was arrogant to tell the public not to buy masks and try to lie and say they weren't effective. Now that lie is meaning a lot more deaths in the USA.
 
Old 06-25-2020, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They did not take precautions. In the photo in the article, the family is indoors and squished together. They are not outside, not 6 feet apart, and not wearing masks. One family member had a cough that he blew off as nothing.

Regardless, this is a good wake-up call. We have been seeing family on occasion and try to stay six feet apart, no hugs or kisses, but no more. We can wait.
There is no reason to pity them. They knew the risks of holding a party, and they did so anyway. And possibly they have infected many other people, as well.
 
Old 06-25-2020, 12:13 PM
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mo...15UhSk?ocid=sw

For the most part, children have been relatively immune to the Coronavirus. However some doctors are worried that might be changing.

At Frisco's Well Health they had about 150 patients test positive for the virus last week, and ten of them were just kids aged ten or younger. They even had one 11-month-old baby test positive.
I don't know that its ever been found that children are 'Immune'. No-one is immune to this virus some populations just don't have symptoms of illness while others do.

The lack of children testing positive is probably more due to children not getting sick enough to need testing at the same rate as older populations. ( since testing is still more concentrated among symptomatic populations)

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Old 06-25-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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Governor Abbott issues executive order to halt elective surgery in Bexas, Dallas, Harris, and Travis counties.
If you need elective surgery, it will have to be done at Tarrant, Denton, Collin, or other surrounding county. There will be a huge backlog, if you don't get in soon.

Governor Abbott Halts Elective Surgeries in Large Cities as COVID-19 Fills Up Hospitals
https://www.kxan.com/news/coronaviru...-up-hospitals/
I don't know that anyone "needs" elective surgery otherwise it wouldn't be elective?
 
Old 06-25-2020, 12:22 PM
 
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My personal opinion - Have masks mandate only for counties where the numbers are high. Having a blanket mask mandate for the whole state is what is making this mask issue political and contentious. That is what Texas Governor is getting at.

If you break the state wide numbers into individual counties and maybe even at a zip-code level, that will give the information needed to decide what counties need a mask mandate.
And this assumes that human beings are stagnant creatures that are only mobile within their assigned counties. This is a political fix not a scientific one.

An outbreak needs a co-ordinated, SCIENCE based response. "They" can whine about their civil liberties after they have lived to see another day
 
Old 06-25-2020, 12:37 PM
 
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I understand the mobility aspect. The suggestion is for minimizing risks and at the same time allow political freedom. Data shows that most of the cases, hospitalizations and deaths are in dense urban areas. Focus on the mask mandates for high density counties.

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And this assumes that human beings are stagnant creatures that are only mobile within their assigned counties. This is a political fix not a scientific one.

An outbreak needs a co-ordinated, SCIENCE based response. "They" can whine about their civil liberties after they have lived to see another day
 
Old 06-25-2020, 12:49 PM
 
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I understand the mobility aspect. The suggestion is for minimizing risks and at the same time allow political freedom. Data shows that most of the cases, hospitalizations and deaths are in dense urban areas. Focus on the mask mandates for high density counties.
Again... doesn't work with mobility. Case in point, Dallas vs Collin county, Denton vs Collin or Harris vs Montgomery county.

People live (as in shop and carry on with their days) and work all across these counties.

A mandate in one county and not the other will do nothing to stop the virus from spreading. There a time for politics then there's a time for common sense. If there's a way to mandate a region that can be a compromise but the county thing is just pandering.
 
Old 06-25-2020, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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Again... doesn't work with mobility. Case in point, Dallas vs Collin county, Denton vs Collin or Harris vs Montgomery county.

People live (as in shop and carry on with their days) and work all across these counties.

A mandate in one county and not the other will do nothing to stop the virus from spreading. There a time for politics then there's a time for common sense. If there's a way to mandate a region that can be a compromise but the county thing is just pandering.
You would think anyone with half a functioning brain cell would have realized what you wrote. Since you cannot ban people from travelling from infected areas to non infected areas then everyone should use masks to prevent the spread. This is not something that we should be having long debates about, but here we are.
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