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[WRnative]

Originally Posted by TechieTechie

LOL...or doesn't take into account how many units are unrentable. Good to know I'm not crazy

However, another way to consider the data is that just considering apartments that you might be willing to rent, the rent per single likely is above $1,400. Admittedly, this surprises me as well, even if just relatively new construction. It indicates a great desire to be located close to University Circle/Cleveland Clinic campus near convenient bus lines, especially the 24/7 Healthline bus rapid. Some of the Hough apartment complexes are within easy walks of the Clinic campus.

[TechieTechie]

Originally Posted by WRnative

However, another way to consider the data is that just considering apartments that you might be willing to rent, the rent per single likely is above $1,400. Admittedly, this surprises me as well, even if just relatively new construction. It indicates a great desire to be located close to University Circle/Cleveland Clinic campus near convenient bus lines, especially the 24/7 Healthline bus rapid. Some of the Hough apartment complexes are within easy walks of the Clinic campus.

Agreed. I can't imagine that CCF residents aren't snapping up these apartments like wildfire. After an 80 or 100 hour week, I'd want to be as close to my bed as possible.

[1watertiger]

Agreed. Hough is still very dangerous and gang infested. However it is changing for the better. New apartments E. 90th St. and Chester ave.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us...nts_IMG_11.jpg


http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us...nts_IMG_02.jpg

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us...nts_IMG_10.jpg

[1watertiger]

And then there is this. Three cool videos in this article showing off the new lumen apartment tower.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/01/...er-completion/

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

And then there is this. Three cool videos in this article showing off the new lumen apartment tower.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/01/...er-completion/

Thanks for posting; can't give you more cred. Art Falco said that they already have 800 prospective tenants interested in renting at the Lumen, so, barring a recession, it appears likely to be a commercial success, significant as the Lumen is the first new residential building constructed downtown in decades. It's opening will be a major story in 2020.



The GoPro video at the end of the article is fascinating as it was attached to the cermonial beam as it was lifted atop the Lumen. As it swayed, the camera provided a great perspective on the height of the Lumen as well as the views from the top of the building. What struck me was the potential, especially east and north of the Lumen for the redevelopment of downtown.


I wonder if Playhouse Square missed an opportunity not building a restaurant/bar at the top of the building, much like the John Hancock Building in Chicago or formerly at Erieview Tower. Not only the "Top of the Town," but also the adjacent bar at Erieview are sorely missed, although perhaps mitigated by the opening of the Hilton's Bar 32, which I've yet to visit.


https://www.cleveland.com/remembers/...ieview_th.html


https://clevelandmagazine.com/food-d...op-of-the-town


I remember on big Browns games going to the westward-facing Top of the Town bar and watching almost at eye level the Goodyear blimp circling the stadium. Probably that's an experience now offered after a long absence by Bar 32 at the Hilton. There also was a business dining club on the east side of Erieview Tower catered by the Top of the Town. I believe it was called the Clevelander Club, but the views east were devoid of much of interest.



Unlike Erieview, the Lumen will be more in the heart of downtown and in an already established dining/entertainment district.

[TheProf]

Sherwin-Williams has chosen, according to NEOtrans, and the winner is ...

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/...and-sites.html

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by TheProf

Sherwin-Williams has chosen, according to NEOtrans, and the winner is ...

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/...and-sites.html

TEASE!!! However, the blogger did deeply and confusingly bury the lede. Thanks for posting this link!

<<The sites that the fast-growing global coatings firm has chosen for its HQ+R&D is both a surprise and not a surprise. The unsurprising part is that SHW's 1.45 million square feet HQ will be built on the parking lots owned by the Jacobs and Weston groups on the west side of Public Square.

The site for the 350,000-square-foot R&D facility is a surprise, however -- on Scranton Peninsula across the Cuyahoga River from SHW's existing John G. Breen Technology Center and SHW's existing HQ in the Landmark Building.>>

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/...and-sites.html

This will be a huge boost to the Scranton Peninsula, but I wonder if anyone has considered the possibility of 100- and 500-year Cuyahoga River flooding with slowing and more moisture-laden storms due to climate change.

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2019/...onditions.html

Not possible? Check out the damage inflicted in Painesville and Village of Grand River by the great Grand River flood of 2006.

https://www.cleveland.com/weather/bl...ear_flood.html

Contrary to the above article, the flood level in Painesville was far greater than 11 feet. The following article says 17 feet of water flooded condos that sat several feet above the river bank. There's no dispute that residents were rescued from rooftops of Gristwood condos. The Millstone condos were built several further feet up the river bank (the Grand River valley, like the Cuyahoga River valley, is very broad in some locations).

https://www.news-herald.com/news/ohi...5c78c29dc.html

The USGS examined high water marks and determined that the flooding in Painesville reached over 19 feet, despite a very broad flood plain that fortunately largely holds only Painesville's 75-acre Kiwanis Recreation Park. See page 13 here:

https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2007/1164/pdf/ofr20071164.pdf

The highest flood levels in Painesville occurred overnight and aren't captured in these pictures.

https://architecturalafterlife.com/2...e-painesville/

The great 2013 Cuyahoga River flood occurred before 100 years of subsequent development, paving, etc.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013...veland_ca.html

The tens of thousands of acres preserved in the Cleveland and Summit Metroparks and the Cuyahoga Valley National Park likely are some of the best flood protection afforded 21st century Cleveland.

[WRnative]

The existing SW research center and SW's nine acres of land adjacent to Tower City likely will be sold, offering great potential for development if SW's research center is relocated to the Scranton Peninsula.

<<The fate of the existing Breen Center and the 9 acres on which it sets isn't known. It is assumed by local real estate investors that SHW will sell the Landmark Building, which also houses about 100,000 square feet of non-SHW office tenants. It could be converted primarily to a residential use.>>

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/...and-sites.html

[216facts]

Originally Posted by TheProf

Sherwin-Williams has chosen, according to NEOtrans, and the winner is ...

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/...and-sites.html

Well that is good news. 6000 jobs consolidated in and around public square is good. Just please don't put up a 30 story glass box. Please. Something that respects the terminal tower, the old society building, the old post office. Something with a hint of grandeur. Please.

[216facts]

Originally Posted by WRnative

This will be a huge boost to the Scranton Peninsula, but I wonder if anyone has considered the possibility of 100- and 500-year Cuyahoga River flooding with slowing and more moisture-laden storms due to climate change.

I don't think it can happen. Unlike the Grand, the Cuyahoga is dredged to about 40 ft deep up to the steel mill. Which means a very large amount of water flow can occur between the Steel mill and Lake Erie. For the River to rise in this section, the water pressure has to rise and the only way this can happen is if something obstructs the flow going out to Lake Erie.

Lake Erie cannot rise due to a local flood event (prolonged flood event in the Great Lakes region, yes it can rise a few feet.) So since Lake Erie cannot rise, and there is a ~ 40 ft trench dredged all the way up to the steel mill, I don't think a flood event can happen - in this section of the river. Now go up to Rockside Road or along Canal Road through Valley View, yes, much flooding can occur in this section of the River, which is relatively shallow and littered with sand bars and obstructions in the river.

Your point about the CVNP and Summit Metro parks is a good one. Another good point is the upper Cuyahoga also has significant wetland preservation. Nonetheless, our propensity to pour concrete everywhere has caused a storm water runoff problem that will be partially dealt with by the underground tunnels of Cleveland and Akron. Still more needs to be done.