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Old 10-26-2016, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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Not really a news story, but I found this interesting. I spent time looking at the proximity (in driving time) of major cities downtown to a body of water/beach that one could not see the other side of (Great Lake, Gulf or Ocean). This is what I found.

City Hall to Ocean, Great Lake or Gulf
1. Cleveland: :05 (Lake Erie)
2. Milwaukee: :05 (Lake Michigan)
3. Chicago: :09 (Lake Michigan)
4. Buffalo: :10 (Lake Erie)
5. Boston: :12 (Atlantic Ocean)
6. San Diego: :12 (Pacific Ocean)
7. San Francisco: :15 (Pacific Ocean)
8. Miami: :15 (Atlantic Ocean)
9. Los Angeles: :18 (Pacific Ocean)
10. Jacksonville: :24 (Atlantic Ocean)
11. New York City: :24 (Atlantic Ocean)
12. Detroit: :30 (Lake Erie)
13. Tampa: :32 (Gulf of Mexico)
14. Orlando: :51 (Atlantic Ocean)
15. Houston: :55 (Gulf of Mexico)
16. Philadelphia: :59 (Atlantic Ocean)
17. New Orleans: 1:06 (Gulf of Mexico)
18. Portland: 1:23 (Pacific Ocean)
19. Sacramento: 1:33 (Pacific Ocean)
20. Pittsburgh: 1:53 (Lake Erie)
21. Raleigh: 1:55 (Atlantic Ocean)
22. Seattle: 2:07 (Pacific Ocean)***
23. Columbus: 2:08 (Lake Erie)
24. San Antonio: 2:14 (Gulf of Mexico)
25. Minneapolis: 2:17 (Lake Superior)
26. Indianapolis: 2:19 (Lake Michigan)
27. Washington DC: 2:28 (Atlantic Ocean)***
28. Charlotte: 3:09 (Atlantic Ocean)
29. Cincinnati: 3:17 (Lake Erie)
30. Atlanta: 3:45 (Atlantic Ocean)
31. Las Vegas: 3:55 (Pacific Ocean)
32. St. Louis: 4:08 (Lake Michigan)
33. Dallas: 4:09 (Gulf of Mexico)
34. Phoenix: 5:03 (Pacific Ocean)***
35. Memphis: 5:20 (Gulf of Mexico)
36. Nashville: 6:20 (Gulf of Mexico/Lake Michigan)
37. Oklahoma City: 7:05 (Gulf of Mexico)
38. Kansas City: 7:12 (Lake Michigan)
39. Salt Lake City: 9:23 (Pacific Ocean)
40. Denver: 13:53 (Pacific Ocean/Lake Michigan)

People really take Cleveland's proximity to the lake for granted. Even in any of the Big 4 Florida cities, going to the beach doesn't happen all that often as it is more of a process to get there than many who don't live there would assume.
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Old 10-27-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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Not really a news story, but I found this interesting. I spent time looking at the proximity (in driving time) of major cities downtown to a body of water/beach that one could not see the other side of (Great Lake, Gulf or Ocean). This is what I found.

City Hall to Ocean, Great Lake or Gulf
1. Cleveland: :05 (Lake Erie)
2. Milwaukee: :05 (Lake Michigan)
3. Chicago: :09 (Lake Michigan)
4. Buffalo: :10 (Lake Erie)
5. Boston: :12 (Atlantic Ocean)
6. San Diego: :12 (Pacific Ocean)
7. San Francisco: :15 (Pacific Ocean)
8. Miami: :15 (Atlantic Ocean)
9. Los Angeles: :18 (Pacific Ocean)
10. Jacksonville: :24 (Atlantic Ocean)
11. New York City: :24 (Atlantic Ocean)
12. Detroit: :30 (Lake Erie)
13. Tampa: :32 (Gulf of Mexico)
14. Orlando: :51 (Atlantic Ocean)
15. Houston: :55 (Gulf of Mexico)
16. Philadelphia: :59 (Atlantic Ocean)
17. New Orleans: 1:06 (Gulf of Mexico)
18. Portland: 1:23 (Pacific Ocean)
19. Sacramento: 1:33 (Pacific Ocean)
20. Pittsburgh: 1:53 (Lake Erie)
21. Raleigh: 1:55 (Atlantic Ocean)
22. Seattle: 2:07 (Pacific Ocean)***
23. Columbus: 2:08 (Lake Erie)
24. San Antonio: 2:14 (Gulf of Mexico)
25. Minneapolis: 2:17 (Lake Superior)
26. Indianapolis: 2:19 (Lake Michigan)
27. Washington DC: 2:28 (Atlantic Ocean)***
28. Charlotte: 3:09 (Atlantic Ocean)
29. Cincinnati: 3:17 (Lake Erie)
30. Atlanta: 3:45 (Atlantic Ocean)
31. Las Vegas: 3:55 (Pacific Ocean)
32. St. Louis: 4:08 (Lake Michigan)
33. Dallas: 4:09 (Gulf of Mexico)
34. Phoenix: 5:03 (Pacific Ocean)***
35. Memphis: 5:20 (Gulf of Mexico)
36. Nashville: 6:20 (Gulf of Mexico/Lake Michigan)
37. Oklahoma City: 7:05 (Gulf of Mexico)
38. Kansas City: 7:12 (Lake Michigan)
39. Salt Lake City: 9:23 (Pacific Ocean)
40. Denver: 13:53 (Pacific Ocean/Lake Michigan)

People really take Cleveland's proximity to the lake for granted. Even in any of the Big 4 Florida cities, going to the beach doesn't happen all that often as it is more of a process to get there than many who don't live there would assume.
If there's water shortage, living next a big body of fresh water would be a big plus!
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Old 10-27-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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Default Chicago Tribune's recommendations for World Series visitors

The article is a quick survey of Cleveland's neighborhoods, but misses Gordon Square and doesn't mention Playhouse Square.

For a real taste of Cleveland, explore the neighborhoods outside Progressive Field - Chicago Tribune

Here's another article for Chicago World Series visitors, focusing more on downtown attractions such as the Rock Hall and Great Lakes Science Center.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...ife/161029320/
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Old 10-28-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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Could Cleveland become the sustainable city of tomorrow? - Curbed
Could Cleveland become the sustainable city of tomorrow?
As Cleveland expands, urban leaders eye the city’s potential for modeling sustainable growth
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Old 10-28-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: cleveland
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.wkyc....rica/343737773
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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With the exception of beef sandwiches, Cleveland food is no different than Chicago food. And you wouldn't have to drive all the way across town to get a cheeseburger, for crying out loud.

Cleveland has few decent beef sandwiches and none so good as some of Chicago's.
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Old 11-02-2016, 08:38 AM
 
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With the exception of beef sandwiches, Cleveland food is no different than Chicago food. And you wouldn't have to drive all the way across town to get a cheeseburger, for crying out loud.

Cleveland has few decent beef sandwiches and none so good as some of Chicago's.
Cleveland's mod ethnic food tradition is acclaimed, as evidenced by the James Beard best chef designations awarded Michael Symon and Jonathan Sawyer. Momocho also is highly acclaimed for mod Mexican food.

I don't know if you can find the likes of beef cheek pierogies (Symon) or even pig's head (Sawyer) in Chicago, but you can in Cleveland. Symon's Mabel's take on Cleveland BBQ likely is not found in Chicago, but it's in the center of Cleveland on East 4th St.

Your comments about beef sandwiches and cheeseburgers is ridiculous. I can think of many locations with superb beef sandwiches. Downtown would include Red, Morton's, Hyde Park Grill, and XO Prime Steaks, just for starters.

"Drive all the way across town to get a cheeseburger?" Ridiculousness.

Finally, comparing a major foodie city with Cleveland is a complement. Both cities have strong ethnic food traditions not found in many other U.S. cities. E.g., the pervasive nature of very good Italian restaurants (not pizza chains) in Greater Cleveland sucks the air out of other food traditions.

Very few cities have anything comparable to the West Side Market.

Cleveland has garnered a lot of respect in the last decade for its food scene, such as from the readers of Travel + Leisure.

Cleveland, Ohio - | Travel + Leisure

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Old 01-23-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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What's Sarasota-Cleveland fusion? Let Cleveland Kitchen show you

While not really a national story about Cleveland, I found this interesting and thought you all would too. Anyone know of similar concepts in other cities? Good press in Tampa Bay, at very least. Less than 10 minutes from where I'm living right now! Hoping to single handedly keep it in business lol.
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Old 01-24-2017, 03:21 AM
 
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What's Sarasota-Cleveland fusion? Let Cleveland Kitchen show you

While not really a national story about Cleveland, I found this interesting and thought you all would too. Anyone know of similar concepts in other cities? Good press in Tampa Bay, at very least. Less than 10 minutes from where I'm living right now! Hoping to single handedly keep it in business lol.
Let us know if this restaurant survives very long. There are many northeast Ohio transplants in Greater Tampa, but I'm not certain how the Cleveland name otherwise would appeal in the area. E.g., Bearden's isn't well known even on the east side of Greater Cleveland.

I would have named the restaurant something else, such as Schnitzel Haus, especially as the concept of Cleveland cuisine likely is foreign to Tampa residents.

Another problem is that many persons, even in Cleveland, are now carb and red meat phobic.
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Old 01-24-2017, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Let us know if this restaurant survives very long. There are many northeast Ohio transplants in Greater Tampa, but I'm not certain how the Cleveland name otherwise would appeal in the area. E.g., Bearden's isn't well known even on the east side of Greater Cleveland.

I would have named the restaurant something else, such as Schnitzel Haus, especially as the concept of Cleveland cuisine likely is foreign to Tampa residents.

Another problem is that many persons, even in Cleveland, are now carb and red meat phobic.
It's funny, I've thought many times about quitting my job and starting a Cleveland food truck here. I don't know if the name Cleveland would attract much, but the food certainly would. Cleveland is a brand that is just fundamentally misunderstood. But after people buy a Polish boy from me, they'll change their mind.
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