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Old 07-22-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: New York
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That's an absurd analogy, because China and India are poor, and horrible places to live.

NYC is richer than Chicago, in every way. Higher per capita income, higher mean household or family income, median household or family income, lower poverty rate, etc.

And it isn't better than Chicago just because it's bigger, but for a variety of reasons (much richer, safer, stronger economy, more international, more scenic, better services, better schools, better transit, more fashionable, closer to more destinations, etc.).

If China and India were Switzerland, then your analogy would make sense.

Sure it is. The analogy was in terms of size. Not all places with great size are necessarily the best, is the point.

NYC is primarily a city for the wealthy, which isnt the majority. The living conditions for the vast majority are either middle class (which is being squeezed and shrinking) or poor.

Chicago is primarily middle class and poor. Not as wealthy as NYC. Now you can see why NYC fares better, but there are new mayoral elections upcoming, so who knows what will change over the next few years. I wouldnt be so ecstatic the way the economy is, and Wall St's only gotten bigger since the bail out (which is ****ing absurd).

Its not better than Chicago because of size at all. Thats not one of the reasons. Theres just higher quality of things to offer.

Schools? in terms of? Youre talking to someone very familiar with the NYC and NYS education system. Theyre both pretty low standard.

 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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Schools? in terms of? Youre talking to someone very familiar with the NYC and NYS education system. Theyre both pretty low standard.
Totally wrong. NY State has some of the best schools in the country, and NYC is often rated the best big-city district. The Northeast has the best funded schools, the highest performing students, and the highest percentage of elite school admissions.

The #1 Harvard feeder school is a NYC public school.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: New York
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Totally wrong. NY State has some of the best schools in the country, and NYC is often rated the best big-city district. The Northeast has the best funded schools, the highest performing students, and the highest percentage of elite school admissions.

The #1 Harvard feeder school is a NYC public school.

If you mean under-performing and under-funded, sure.


Im not talking university here, im talking the CPS and the NYCDE.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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Im not dissing the nightlife of NYC, all im pointing out is that if youre going to show examples of why NYC nightlife is the best, Midtown and the Financial District are NOT the best examples. Neither is downtown Chicago.

Both of their nightlife areas are concentrated elsewhere.
Midtown Manhattan is extremely busy after-hours. Times Square is packed at 2 AM.

As an aside, pretty much every post you've written is completely, utterly wrong. Claiming NY State has low performing schools, using the analogy that India is to the U.S. as NYC is to Chicago, posting that Midtown has no pedestrians, etc. It's like opposite-day in terms of postings. Just take whatever you write, and you can be confident the opposite is true.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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Did you visit Broadway and Belmont? Is that a Strip Mall in your book?

And again such real estate development is rare in NYC because people simply can't afford cars/parking/insurance the way most urban Chicagoans can.

But honestly, if you transported a New Yorker to the Belmont/Broadway area of Chicago....most would not only be closer to a beach, but not that culture shocked by what the neighborhood offered. Some mught be amazed that it offered them a tiny bit of motorized vehicling as well.
Meanwhile some (even though it's their money) idiot just spent 80k on a parking spot in Park Slope.

Park Slope Parking Spot Sells for $80K - Park Slope - DNAinfo.com New York

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PARK SLOPE — What's the going rate for 119 square feet of Park Slope real estate these days? Try $80,000.
Can't afford. . .LOL. Maybe there's a necessity for a car in Chicago but not here.

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Are you kidding me with this nonsense? NYC is NOT a car oriented city. Simple as that. The public transportation system is so vast and vital that you don't need a car, whether you can afford one or not. Many New Yorkers don't even have their licenses, rich or poor. Is this because they can't afford a car, too?

Manhattan is so dense that there aren't even many areas to park a car, honestly. And there also are barely any gas stations in Manhattan. It's a hassle to own one, especially considering, on the flip side, there are subway stops for multiple lines every other street or avenue, it seems. New York is a very walkable city, as well, and its urbanity is unmatched in the US. You can usually find whatever you need and more in your neighborhood, and whatever you need that's not there is a quick subway ride away, along with amenities like theater, the beach, ball games, major shopping centers, restaurant oriented neighborhoods, etc. This goes for every borough minus Staten Island…

The only borough where you need a car is Staten Island, or if you need to regularly get to Staten Island from another borough. The only form of public transportation on SI connecting it to the rest of the city easily is the SI Ferry to and from Manhattan, and the bus. They have their own train line, but it doesn't extend into the other boroughs.

I know a girl from Brooklyn, I met her at school on Staten Island. She comes from a well off family, they lived in a gorgeous brownstone and have a house in the Hamptons they spend their summers in. She only got her license when she was 21, and reluctantly so. She always took the subway everywhere, and while her dad had a car, she never needed or wanted to use it. She only got her license when she started to branch out of Brooklyn.
Precisely!

I will willing come him Staten Island. Lol

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The MTA is world class because it runs 24/7 365?

I guess McDonalds, which has thousands of locations in hundreds of different countries, is a world class restaurant because they run 24 hours.


A bridge or a park is not an icon. Get over it.

The Statue of Liberty is an icon.
A bridge or a park CAN also be an icon. I truly believe the Brooklyn Bridge is an iconic bridge and others around the world agrees with this fact.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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If you mean under-performing and under-funded, sure.
LOL!

NY State is #1 in the country in state per-pupil funding.

NY City is #1 in the country in city per-pupil funding.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:30 PM
 
Location: New York
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LOL!

NY State is #1 in the country in state per-pupil funding.

NY City is #1 in the country in city per-pupil funding.


Class Size & Funding Inequity in NY State & NY City | School Finance 101
 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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Not sure why you're posting this, but again, you are claiming that the best funded state in the U.S. is "underfunded". If that's true of the #1 state, then what's your claim for the other 49?

It's like someone is arguing Alaska is a "too small" state. That may be true or not, but it's the biggest state. What's the point of arguing it's too small?

You're arguing the best funded state in the richest major country in the world is underfunded. By your standards, there is no such thing as a non-underfunded educational system.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
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Schools? in terms of? Youre talking to someone very familiar with the NYC and NYS education system. Theyre both pretty low standard.
What kind of school system are we talking about here? Higher education? If so this is a totally stupid comment because New York metro area is like the best place for higher education in the country after Boston. If we are talking all schools in general then this is a comparison thread with Chicago. Are you trying to suggest they are better?


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Where the **** does it say "Manhattan"?

If you wanna be a smart ass make sure you know how. Making sure you read and understand everything carefully is a good start.


For the 300th time. My family is from Brooklyn, and moved Upstate. I lived in Flatbush Brooklyn for 6 years. Went to school in Newark.

Im not dissing the nightlife of NYC, all im pointing out is that if youre going to show examples of why NYC nightlife is the best, Midtown and the Financial District are NOT the best examples. Neither is downtown Chicago.

Both of their nightlife areas are concentrated elsewhere.
Midtown and Financial District has plenty of activities there after 10pm as well. As much as you would expect in places like that. Midtown especially has crap loads.

And if your trying to be a smartass then actually read the damn thing first. I never Midtown and Financial District are centers for nightlife in NYC. I just asked you to clarify what you were talking about in your post.
 
Old 07-22-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: New York
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Midtown Manhattan is extremely busy after-hours. Times Square is packed at 2 AM.

As an aside, pretty much every post you've written is completely, utterly wrong. Claiming NY State has low performing schools, using the analogy that India is to the U.S. as NYC is to Chicago, posting that Midtown has no pedestrians, etc. It's like opposite-day in terms of postings. Just take whatever you write, and you can be confident the opposite is true.


Extremely busy in terms of what? Its not a primary nightlife destination. On a scale from 1-10 in terms of activity, its probably a 3 or 4, which is still more than any other city, but by NYC standards, is not a place teeming with activity or nightlife at night, especially in the early hours, unless you consider late night stragglers, garbagemen and people coming in and out of Penn Station as high activity.

The Financial District is practically a ghost town at night.


You clearly have no basic reading comprehension skills. Honestly. You dont.

Size is not the reason NYC is better than Chicago. Size doesnt equate to whats better anywhere.

You must be from Texas.
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