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I was taking about both. GA has the smallest counties by average size, while most Texas counties are generally big.
Greater Houston is 10 counties
Harris County, TX is 1,778 sq mi
The Core is 1,778 sq mi
DFW Metroplex is 14 counties
Dallas County TX is 908 sq mi
Tarrant County TX is 897 sq mi
The Core is 1,805 sq mi
Metro Atlanta is 28 counties
Fulton County, GA is 534.61 sq mi
DeKalb County, GA is 270.91 sq mi
Cobb County, GA is 344.51 sq mi
Gwinnett County, GA is 436.72 sq mi
Clayton County, GA is 144.28 sq mi
The Core is 1,731 sq mi
I was disagree with him county sizes don't matter in effecting commuter rate. Liberty County in the Houston area is like Barrow County in the Atlanta area. Because Texas counties are larger Liberty is lesser counties away from Harris then Barrow is two Fulton or Dekalb for that matter, but eastern Liberty to Harris County is like where Barrow County would be to Fulton away. It's the same commuting rules county size or pop didn't effect anything.
Dallas and Fort Worth can't be split if anything they can lose exurban counties. But Dallas and Tarrant counties can't be divide into two different MSA like the Bay or DC and Baltimore are. I posted the map to show Dallas and Tarrant are in the middle of the MSA, It's one thing for two cities to be united by share suburbs, it's another thing for them being practically neighbors. Dallas, Forth Worth and Arlington.
There is absolutely no way to compare the Washington/Baltimore area to the Dallas Fort Worth Area. Washington D.C. is light years in front of Dallas and Baltimore is even further ahead of Fort Worth. Baltimore is a very large urban city unlike Fort Worth so the feel and influence can't be compared at all. Just to give you an example of the difference in power and intensity of the regions. Washington D.C. has one of the top two most lucrative football franchises in the whole country in the Redskins. We share that spot with none other than the Dallas Cowboys. Baltimore 30 minutes up the road has a completely separate football franchise and this area supports both of them. This area has an infusion of distinct cultures and when there is nothing but development connecting every inch between the two area's around 2020, there will still be different cultures between the northern half of the region and the southern half of the region.
A good way to look at DC and Baltimore is the difference between different parts of a city. You have the blue collar half of a city and you have the white collar half of the city. DC is the white collar most affluent side of the region and Baltimore is the blue collar working class part of the region. There are three International Airports in the region. Washington Dulles International Airport. Washington Reagan International Airport. Baltimore/Washington International Airport. The region is never going to feel like one area culturally. I don't think I have ever heard of similarities between white collar and blue collar area's in any city. It's comparable to the difference between an all white church and an all black church. Night and day.
A good way to look at DC and Baltimore is the difference between different parts of a city. You have the blue collar half of a city and you have the white collar half of the city. DC is the white collar most affluent side of the region and Baltimore is the blue collar working class part of the region. There are three International Airports in the region. Washington Dulles International Airport. Washington Reagan International Airport. Baltimore/Washington International Airport. The region is never going to feel like one area culturally. I don't think I have ever heard of similarities between white collar and blue collar area's in any city. It's comparable to the difference between an all white church and an all black church. Night and day.
DC and Baltimore are a CSA, but are not one MSA, or metropolitan area.
They are independent. Baltimore has a entirely different inner city transit system. The DC metro doesn't cross into any counties within the Baltimore MSA. BWI is managed by the state of MD, that also subsidizes the daily British Airways flight to LHR. DCA and IAD are operated by MWAA.
Baltimore County which is greater than Baltimore City is diverse and has commutership of employment from residents in York County, PA. That's economic activity unrelated to DC, although the Baltimore market in general does mooch off of its proximity to DC.
It's not the same grouping association as Miami and Ft. Lauderdale, or Dallas and Fort Worth though, but it is closer tied than say Allentown to Philadelphia, which are not even one CSA.
This list is flawed. You can bet your bottom dollar that San Francisco Bay Area has more persons per houshold than DFW, and not to mention there is more than one TV per houshold.. Look at San Francisco, a large part of the households are not your "Leave It To Beaver" Husband/Wife and a couple kids, but cousins, aunts, uncles, roomates, etc. The high property values in the area make it essential to have more than two incomes unless you and your spouse are both making $75K or more per year.
^^^ will track down the population counts as opposed to households but the order doesn change nor the magnitude in any specific sense.
Remember latino families are larger in Dallas too
it all evens out a bit in the macro sense
The order would change by the Bay Area and DFW swapping spots. There is a difference of only 65,000.
As for latinos, the same can be said for Filipinos and Asians. Many come to this country and find themselves working lower wage jobs.
Because separate tv stations out of West Palm Beach serve roughly a third of Miami's metro, Miami's tv market rank is somewhat out of whack.
Combining the two markets would raise South Florida to 8th.
But you can't combine them as WPB has their own TV stations and this is another reason why I think the Miami metro area (which is Dade and Broward County) and Palm Beach County should be a CSA instead of just one large MSA. Up until 2003, WPB was not considered to be in the same metro as Miami. But after that year, that's how Miami jumped up to 5 million that fast.
There is absolutely no way to compare the Washington/Baltimore area to the Dallas Fort Worth Area. Washington D.C. is light years in front of Dallas and Baltimore is even further ahead of Fort Worth. Baltimore is a very large urban city unlike Fort Worth so the feel and influence can't be compared at all. Just to give you an example of the difference in power and intensity of the regions. Washington D.C. has one of the top two most lucrative football franchises in the whole country in the Redskins. We share that spot with none other than the Dallas Cowboys. Baltimore 30 minutes up the road has a completely separate football franchise and this area supports both of them. This area has an infusion of distinct cultures and when there is nothing but development connecting every inch between the two area's around 2020, there will still be different cultures between the northern half of the region and the southern half of the region.
A good way to look at DC and Baltimore is the difference between different parts of a city. You have the blue collar half of a city and you have the white collar half of the city. DC is the white collar most affluent side of the region and Baltimore is the blue collar working class part of the region. There are three International Airports in the region. Washington Dulles International Airport. Washington Reagan International Airport. Baltimore/Washington International Airport. The region is never going to feel like one area culturally. I don't think I have ever heard of similarities between white collar and blue collar area's in any city. It's comparable to the difference between an all white church and an all black church. Night and day.
I don't think they are the same type of international airport as Dulles and BWI. You're also right that DFW can't compare to Baltimore/Washington. DFW is more connected than the Baltimore/Washington area. DFW functions as one in just about everything. Baltimore/Washington does not. What they do have in common is that Baltimore is way different from Washington and Fort Worth is way different than Dallas.
Actually, TV media markets aren't a great way to measure a market like DC and Baltimore. Each city has there own media market. The line is drawn northeast of DC and southeast of Baltimore in Howard county. That is about 20 minutes outside DC proper and 15 minutes outside Baltimore proper. An area like Houston, Atlanta, or Dallas with nothing around them for miles is night an day to an area like DC and Baltimore.
But now you know how Philly feels when it constantly gets dicked for MSA numbers because of NYC
But you can't combine them as WPB has their own TV stations and this is another reason why I think the Miami metro area (which is Dade and Broward County) and Palm Beach County should be a CSA instead of just one large MSA. Up until 2003, WPB was not considered to be in the same metro as Miami. But after that year, that's how Miami jumped up to 5 million that fast.
Technically, you're right. My gripe is not really about the broadcast tv market as it is the sports broadcast tv market. Because WPB is a neighboring broadcast market, sports broadcasters give short shrift to the Miami sports tv market.
In reality, I'm guessing that viewing for Heat games in particular is only slightly less in the WPB market than it is in the Miami market.
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