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I disagree, unless you consider the "metro" area to include rural areas or even other smaller cities 50 or even 100's of miles away. Toledo's market includes places like Findlay 50 miles away, or Phoenix includes Flagstaff and Prescott over 100 miles away, which are in no way considered part of the metro. Then look at Albuquerque, Denver, or Salt Lake City which include nearly entire states or more.
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TV Markets
1) NYC
2) Los Angeles
3) Chicago
4) Philadelphia
5) Dallas-Ft. Worth
6) San Francisco - Oakland - San Jose 7) Boston
8) Washington DC
9) Atlanta
10) Houston
11) Detroit
12) Seattle - Tacoma
13) Phoenix
14) Tampa - St. Petersburg
15) Minneapolis - St. Paul
16) Miami - Ft. Lauderdale
17) Denver
18) Cleveland
19) Orlando
20) Sacramento
MSA'S
1) NYC
2) Los Angeles
3) Chicago
4) Dallas - Ft. Worth
5) Philadelphia
6) Houston
7) Washington DC
8) Miami - Ft. Lauderdale
9) Atanta
10) Boston
11) San Francisco
12) Detroit
13) Riverside- San Bernardino
14) Phoenix
15) Seattle - Tacoma
16) Minneapolis - St. Paul
17) San Diego
18) St. Louis
19) Tampa- St. Petersburg
20) Baltimore
Any correlation?
The Boston region although it is a good size, is not truly bigger than DC's therefore this is not the best representation of size.
Damn. I didn't know Pittsburgh was the largest city in the world. Over 1 Billion? 1/6 of the entire worlds population? No other city in the world comes close lol.
I wouldn't say this is the "best" way to judge the size of various metros, but it is certainly an interesting piece of the puzzle. TV markets definitely give some idea of the media power of each market.
Looking at the top 25 a few things jump out at me:
(1) how low Miami is. Crazy that it is below places like Seattle, Tampa and the Twin cities.
(2) surprise that LA is so much bigger than Chicago (the gap between LA and Chicago is bigger than the gap between LA and NYC). But I guess if anyplace would be well represented in the media, it makes sense that LA is up there.
(3) surprise that Raleigh-Durham is slightly larger than Charlotte
CSA is a different definition. If SJ and SF combined to form one metro it would be around the size of Houston Metro roughly. With CA being more heavily populated outside of main urban areas CSA's can group together many areas to form one large area. If the census did decide to combine the bay area into one metro it would not be the same size as its current CSA.
Quite frankly Radio Markets tend to be a misleading barometer. Within Philadelphias TV Market there are 9 seperate radio submarkets.
Philadelphia
Reading
Allentown
Wimington
Trenton
Vineland
Atlantic City
Dover
Lancaster
I believe we should stick with TV Markets for aguments sake.
FM radio in the North and California have a maximum of 50,000 watts @ 150 meters due to the closeness of major cities such as Philadelphia and NYC. The rest of the country has a maximum of 100,000 watts @ 600 meters such as Houston, San Antonio, Austin, and Dallas.
If Philadelphia had the 100,000 watts @ 600 meters instead, it would be one united market (unless the South Mountain blocks FM and TV from Roxborough). If DFW had the 50,000 watts @ 150 meters instead, there would be separate Dallas and Fort Worth markets and probably Denton and Greenville markets.
I use the 100 km rule - a radius from the city center stretching out 100 km to cover the city, suburbs, and (near) rural areas. A much better indicator of the limits of a car driven on the freeway for one hour, which by the way is how most Americans get to work. (Guess what they listen to on the way?)
Actually if you combine the MSA of San Jose and the MSA of San Fran, DFW does have more people.
That is incorrect. The CSA is the combination of the SF-Oakland MSA and the San Jose MSA:
SF/Oakland/SJ CSA- 7.5 million
DFW CSA - 6.7 Million
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