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Old 06-23-2009, 06:24 PM
 
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No I am not, deal with Gods word..

matt 25:

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

take this too you rejector of truth:

mk 3:

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
I just quoted the Greek and showed you the more accurate translations, and you go and quote the improper translation again. That does nothing to deter my point whatsoever.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:32 PM
 
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Yes you do..

Thats not for you to decide.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:41 PM
 
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No I am not, deal with Gods word..

matt 25:

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

take this too you rejector of truth:

mk 3:

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
Also, let's look at your claimed quote which "proves" eternal damnation. Notice that, right after it says you will never be forgiven, it only says you will be IN DANGER of (that is, liable to, but not inevitably doomed to) eternal damnation. But, you say that if you blasphemy the Holy Spirit you will not find forgiveness and be damned to Hell. By that logic, you aren't in DANGER of Hell, you ARE UNEQUIVOCALLY GOING TO HELL. There is no danger, there is no liability, only the inevitable Hell which awaits you if you blasphemy the Holy Spirit.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:43 PM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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I just quoted the Greek and showed you the more accurate translations, and you go and quote the improper translation again. That does nothing to deter my point whatsoever.
I see no difference.....the KJV is a proper translation, agreed upon by many scholarly people. How exactly do you interpret "age-ending"??? What age? Who's age? What does that even mean? I'll tell you what it means, and it's not what you think or want to believe. It means age without end. Instead of trying to argue God's Word, why not follow his commandments to win souls to Christ?

If you're going to translate a few select words to your liking in Greek or Latin, then why not do the whole Bible? You don't trust what was interpreted, so do it yourself!!

You people take a few words that are difficult to translate and put your own meaning to it to fit your doctrine. You are only fooling yourselves, and no matter what you think the only thing that matters is God's plan. And God's plan includes an eternal heaven for the saved and an eternal hell for the unsaved. None of us like it, but we have no say in it.

Therefore it is imperative that all this bickering and nonsense stops because the fight should be to snatch souls out of the devil's hands, not between those claiming to know the Lord.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:53 PM
 
Location: NC
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What I will believe is that God is Love and that man is accountable for what he does, but Gods love will not fail to bring all to repentance and God is not limited to any frame of time that man imposes
Amen. God bless.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:54 PM
 
Location: NC
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I see no difference.....the KJV is a proper translation, agreed upon by many scholarly people. How exactly do you interpret "age-ending"??? What age? Who's age? What does that even mean? I'll tell you what it means, and it's not what you think or want to believe. It means age without end.
Hi, aionios is the adjective of aion and means of or relating to an age. An age is an indefinite period of time. God bless.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:57 PM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Hi, aionios is the adjective of aion and means of or relating to an age. An age is an indefinite period of time. God bless.
Yes yes, we've all heard this over and over ad nauseum....my questions were rhetorical, Shana.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:01 PM
 
Location: NC
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Hi, Ilene, just clarifying for someone who may not have heard. Thanks and God bless.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:54 PM
 
Location: England
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He was calling them Vipers - just like he told certain truths in parables - he was comparing them to vipers and snakes - not literally. God is not willing that anyone should perish. In Ezekial God says - "I do not take pleasure in the destruction of the evil man - why doesn't he repent, turn away from his wrongdoing..." God knows that we have our own minds and respects that. But he longs to have a real, relationship with people. Gods eyes are still going to and fro over the earth - looking for men and women who are seeking him. He sent his own son to this earth.....he has made a way, its there!!! We are without excuse - when we know the truth about Jesus and then turn our back and walk away. Thats what makes us vipers and snakes!!
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Let's not go there. We see nothing in scripture where God desires for people to be in hell. Scripture clearly says, that God does not delight in the death of the wicked. God loves everyone and wants none to perish. I believe Jesus did not die on the cross for the whole world but for His elect who He predestined to be in heaven but there is no verse that God desires for men to go to hell. This is just another mystery of God which in our perverted, fallen state we are in we could never know nor comprehend. We should not fill in the blanks; we should only go from scripture. Much safer.
Fundamentalist, why you you believe God put people down here on Earth knowing that He was going to end up damning them? I can't imagine why He wouldn't at least give us all an equal chance to accept His Son? That just doesn't sound like a loving Father in Heaven at all to me.
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