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Isaiah 42:1,4: “Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him and he will bring justice to the nations . . . He will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice on earth…”
People were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
And thats His Church
Thats pure nonsense. It wouldnt be fair to all the others if your scenario is true, and all know-- all of Gods ways are justice-Deut 32:4
Jesus died so that anyone can obey him and repent and turn around.
1John 2:2--the whole world is given the opportunity.
People were not put in the body of Christ until Jesus came and made the way for that reconciliation.
Jesus had to die first and rise again and ascend and send the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit has always been in the world, He is God, He regenerated people in the OT. Isaac was born after the Spirit like believers today are Gal 4:28-29
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
The Holy was sent on the day of pentecost in a different administrative capacity, that was to empower the Apostles for the preaching ministry under the new covenant
1 Pet 1:12
12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
He specifically told His disciples Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
The Holy Spirit has always been in the world, He is God, He regenerated people in the OT. Isaac was born after the Spirit like believers today are Gal 4:28-29
No one was put in Christ until Christ died, rose again, ascended and sent the Holy Spirit.
Hebrews 11:39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised,
Hebrews 11:13
All these people died in faith, without having received the things they were promised. However, they saw them and welcomed them from afar. And they acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.
Hebrews 11:40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
Did you hear about a place called Abraham's bosom?
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The church of the OT that prophesied the coming of the Messiah.
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The church is the body of Christ with his true worshipers. There was no church with people who went through Jesus blood until Jesus came and died for us.
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So who is Isaiah writing for then? ...
Isaiah 42:1,4: “Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him and he will bring justice to the nations . . . He will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice on earth…”
"When the Church heard the Incarnate Word of God and committed His Word to writing, she thereby participated with God in giving birth to the written Word, the New Testament. Thus it was the Church which gave birth to and preceded the New Testament."
No one was put in Christ until Christ died, rose again, ascended and sent the Holy Spirit.
Hebrews 11:39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised,
Hebrews 11:13
All these people died in faith, without having received the things they were promised. However, they saw them and welcomed them from afar. And they acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.
Hebrews 11:40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
Did you hear about a place called Abraham's bosom?
The Holy Spirit has always been in the world. John the Baptist Mother was filled with the Holy Spirit
Lk 1:41
And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
And John the Baptist himself, from his Moms womb.
Lk 1:15
For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
Technically both of the them were OT Saints, because Christ had not yet died !
The plan was made before the creation of the world. Read it more carefully.
You have to listen to the Holy Spirit if you can and not what Calvin taught you.
The choosing action of God took place before the foundation, He chose a people in Christ. They are the only ones Christ came to redeem Eph 1:4,7
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