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But, the OT mentions the Congregation of the Lord (Church) over 300 times.
Give the scripture that speaks of Jesus' body being the church in the Old Testament and don't give me the world congregation as being the word 'church'.
Give the scripture that speaks of Jesus' body being the church in the Old Testament and don't give me the world congregation as being the word 'church'.
You are asking me to lie based on your lack of study. Here is the original language definition of congregation.
Church; ἐκκλησία, ας, ἡ (ἐκ + καλέω; Eur., Hdt.+)
ⓐ of OT Israelites assembly, congregation (Dt 31:30; Judg 20:2; 1 Km 17:47; 3 Km 8:14; PsSol 10:6; TestJob 32:8 τῆς εὐώδους ἐ.; Philo; Jos., Ant. 4, 309; Diod S 40, 3, 6) Hb 2:12 (Ps 21:23); e.g. to hear the law (Dt 4:10; 9:10; 18:16) Ac 7:38.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). In A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., p. 303). University of Chicago Press.
You are asking me to lie based on your lack of study. Here is the original language definition of congregation.
Church; ἐκκλησία, ας, ἡ (ἐκ + καλέω; Eur., Hdt.+)
ⓐ of OT Israelites assembly, congregation (Dt 31:30; Judg 20:2; 1 Km 17:47; 3 Km 8:14; PsSol 10:6; TestJob 32:8 τῆς εὐώδους ἐ.; Philo; Jos., Ant. 4, 309; Diod S 40, 3, 6) Hb 2:12 (Ps 21:23); e.g. to hear the law (Dt 4:10; 9:10; 18:16) Ac 7:38.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). In A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., p. 303). University of Chicago Press.
I don't ask anyone to lie, you false witness and accuser.
None of those scriptures say 'church' in the Old Testament.
It looks like you are what you falsely accused me of doing.
I don't ask anyone to lie, you false witness and accuser.
None of those scriptures say 'church' in the Old Testament.
It looks like you are what you falsely accused me of doing.
The word for Church is ἐκκλησία, ας, ἡ (ἐκ + καλέω; Eur.,
ⓐ of OT Israelites assembly, congregation (Dt 31:30; Judg 20:2; 1 Km 17:47; 3 Km 8:14; PsSol 10:6; TestJob 32:8 τῆς εὐώδους ἐ.; Philo; Jos., Ant. 4, 309; Diod S 40, 3, 6) Hb 2:12 (Ps 21:23); e.g. to hear the law (Dt 4:10; 9:10; 18:16) Ac 7:38.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). In A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., p. 303). University of Chicago Press.
“This is he, that was in the church (Ekklasia) in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)
The word for Church is ἐκκλησία, ας, ἡ (ἐκ + καλέω; Eur.,
ⓐ of OT Israelites assembly, congregation (Dt 31:30; Judg 20:2; 1 Km 17:47; 3 Km 8:14; PsSol 10:6; TestJob 32:8 τῆς εὐώδους ἐ.; Philo; Jos., Ant. 4, 309; Diod S 40, 3, 6) Hb 2:12 (Ps 21:23); e.g. to hear the law (Dt 4:10; 9:10; 18:16) Ac 7:38.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). In A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., p. 303). University of Chicago Press.
“This is he, that was in the church (Ekklasia) in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)
None of those scriptures say 'church' in the Old Testament.
It looks like you are what you falsely accused me of doing.
You give the names of many men and none of those men are in the Bible.
None of those scriptures say 'church' in the Old Testament.
It looks like you are what you falsely accused me of doing.
You give the names of many men and none of those men are in the Bible.
Show us a scripture that says the church wasnt in the OT ? The Church belongs to Christ, which is the Seed of Abraham Gal 3:29
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Now was the seed of Abraham in the OT ?
2 Chron 20:7
Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever?
Ps 105:6
O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.
Isa 41:8
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
Jer 33:26
Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
You are asking me to lie based on your lack of study. Here is the original language definition of congregation.
Church; ἐκκλησία, ας, ἡ (ἐκ + καλέω; Eur., Hdt.+)
ⓐ of OT Israelites assembly, congregation (Dt 31:30; Judg 20:2; 1 Km 17:47; 3 Km 8:14; PsSol 10:6; TestJob 32:8 τῆς εὐώδους ἐ.; Philo; Jos., Ant. 4, 309; Diod S 40, 3, 6) Hb 2:12 (Ps 21:23); e.g. to hear the law (Dt 4:10; 9:10; 18:16) Ac 7:38.
Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., Bauer, W., & Gingrich, F. W. (2000). In A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed., p. 303). University of Chicago Press.
The Church is a called out assembly, Israel national was emblematic of the Church by it being an called out assembly from the other nations of the world. Abraham was its proginator and of course He was called out by God Heb 11:8
By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
And the Church is the seed of Abraham, hes its Father, so when he was called out, so was His seed in him. Thats the church, for Abraham had a Spiritual seed !
Show us a scripture that says the church wasnt in the OT ? The Church belongs to Christ, which is the Seed of Abraham Gal 3:29
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Now was the seed of Abraham in the OT ?
2 Chron 20:7
Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever?
Ps 105:6
O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.
Isa 41:8
But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
Jer 33:26
Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
There was no church or salvation through Jesus until Jesus came and died, raised himself, ascended, and sent his Spirit.
There was no church or salvation through Jesus until Jesus came and died, raised himself, ascended, and sent his Spirit.
Scripture proves you wrong. “This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)
Scripture proves you wrong. “This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)
Right its head Christ was with them 1 Cor 10:3-4-5
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
Some of the Spiritual Israel was among them, Christ was their Spiritual head
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