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Old 05-18-2020, 02:51 PM
 
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Very true, Pleroo. It is why I personally tend to view it as a form of child abuse.
I don't. It's just another human construct that causes damage. Religion is not the only source of such constructs and I personally don't believe any parent is perfect in that regard. So, damaging to children, absolutely. But not abuse in the sense that I think parents who believe in it themselves think they are doing the loving thing by passing the belief on to their children.

 
Old 05-18-2020, 02:54 PM
 
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I don't. It's just another human construct that causes damage. Religion is not the only source of such constructs and I personally don't believe any parent is perfect in that regard.
I understand. I did not mean to imply DELIBERATE child abuse but an unknowing one based on a sincere belief in the "precepts and doctrines of men."
 
Old 05-18-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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I understand. I did not mean to imply DELIBERATE child abuse but an unknowing one based on a sincere belief in the "precepts and doctrines of men."
Yes, I agree, completely.
 
Old 05-18-2020, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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Search = "eternal death"

Your search query has yielded no results. Please modify your query & try again.
Mine was not a query, not a question, not an inquiry, It was a statement supported by Scriptures. Rev 20 states those who are dead to the flesh are judged from the books that were opened and any of those dead people whose names were not recorded in the book of the living were thrown into the lake of fire, those who were dead in the flesh, who were thrown into the lake of fire, were the cowards, traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral, those who practise magic, those who worship idols, and all liars — the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”

Those who were already dead in the flesh, then suffer the second death. What is it of those people which dies a second time?

And Jesus was nearly two years old and Living in Nazareth, when the wise men were warned not to return to Herod and reveal the child's location, and on that same night, Joseph was warned to get out of bed and flee into Egypt.

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Old 05-18-2020, 07:50 PM
 
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Mine was not a query, not a question, not an inquiry, It was a statement supported by Scriptures.
There is no support for "eternal death" in Scripture, NONE, nada.

In fact, the One who has triumphed over death, consumes all thanantos into Himself.

And there shall be no more death, neither sorrow nor crying > > >

The former things are done away."


Done away =

poieo = to seize lift up & take away.
 
Old 05-18-2020, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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There is no support for "eternal death" in Scripture, NONE, nada.

In fact, the One who has triumphed over death, consumes all thanantos into Himself.

And there shall be no more death, neither sorrow nor crying > > >

The former things are done away."


Done away =

poieo = to seize lift up & take away.
Only after he has totally destroyed the wicked, who are cast into the lake of fire and sulfur, which is the second death, the death of the wicked minds/spirits which had developed within the bodies that had suffered the first death. Then God will allocate those empty souls, new bodies in which new minds will develop in a righteous world.

1 Thessalonians 5: 23; Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit=Mind, and soul=life-force, and body=heart, be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Love God with all your heart, mind and being.
 
Old 05-18-2020, 09:53 PM
 
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Only after he has totally destroyed the wicked, who are cast into the lake of fire and sulfur, which is the second death, the death of the wicked minds/spirits which had developed within the bodies that had suffered the first death. Then God will allocate those empty souls, new bodies in which new minds will develop in a righteous world.
Be careful crossing the street.
 
Old 05-18-2020, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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Be careful crossing the street.
Which street?
 
Old 05-18-2020, 10:04 PM
 
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Only after he has totally destroyed the wicked, who are cast into the lake of fire and sulfur, which is the second death, the death of the wicked minds/spirits which had developed within the bodies that had suffered the first death. Then God will allocate those empty souls, new bodies in which new minds will develop in a righteous world.

1 Thessalonians 5: 23; Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit=Mind, and soul=life-force, and body=heart, be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Love God with all your heart, mind and being.
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Be careful crossing the street.
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Which street?
One with a sign that says, "no crossing" in a language you do not comprehend.
 
Old 05-18-2020, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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One with a sign that says, "no crossing" in a language you do not comprehend.
Now why would I bother crossing a road with a foreign sign that my Smart phone has translated for me as a 'NO CROSSING ' sign?
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