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Old 05-16-2020, 07:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Oh.
Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear. Some eternal torment believers make comments that give the impression that they feel superior because they are willing to embrace a God who is difficult to believe in.

 
Old 05-16-2020, 07:40 PM
 
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Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear. Some eternal torment believers make comments that give the impression that they feel superior because they are willing to embrace a God who is difficult to believe in.
It's not rational to follow or believe in a god who would torment anyone infinitely for a finite life?
Anyone that believes in that kind of god would be worshiping a wicked god of infinite proportion.
 
Old 05-16-2020, 08:01 PM
 
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It's not rational to follow or believe in a god who would torment anyone infinitely for a finite life?
Anyone that believes in that kind of god would be worshiping a wicked god of infinite proportion.


To suppose that God would bring beings into existence who he knew would be infinite losers by that existence, is to charge him with the utmost malignity.

The existence itself would not be a blessing, but a curse; the greatness of which cannot be described. As God is infinite in knowledge, and as he sees the end from the beginning, he must have known before the creation, the result of the existence he was about to confer, and whether, upon the whole, it would be a blessing; and , as he was not under any necessity to create man, being also infinitely benevolent, he could not have conferred an existence that he knew would end in the worst possible consequences to his creatures. -Thomas Whittemore-
 
Old 05-16-2020, 08:43 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear. Some eternal torment believers make comments that give the impression that they feel superior because they are willing to embrace a God who is difficult to believe in.
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It's not rational to follow or believe in a god who would torment anyone infinitely for a finite life?
Anyone that believes in that kind of god would be worshiping a wicked god of infinite proportion.
Yep
 
Old 05-17-2020, 12:41 AM
 
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It's not rational to follow or believe in a god who would torment anyone infinitely for a finite life?
Anyone that believes in that kind of god would be worshiping a wicked god of infinite proportion.
Amen.
 
Old 05-17-2020, 07:47 AM
 
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God is the Father of all men.

“Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?” (Mal. 2:10).

A kind Father will not punish his children but for their good. God is evidently called the Father of all men in the Scriptures, and this is not an unmeaning name; he has the disposition and principles of a Father. He loves with a Father’s love; he watches with a Father’s care; he reproves with a Father’s tenderness; he punishes with a Father’s design.

God is the Father of all men; and, therefore, he cannot make mankind endlessly miserable. -Thomas Whittemore-
 
Old 05-17-2020, 02:31 PM
 
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God is Lord & owner of men.

All men, of right, belong to God.

“Behold, all souls are mine,” says the Lord.

“As the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine.” (Ezek. 18:4).

God will not give up what belongs to him, to the dominion of sin and Satan forever.

All men are God’s by creation; he made them all.

They are his by preservation; he sustains them all.

They were his at first, and they always have remained in his care.

“The earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dell therein.” That God, who says to men, “If any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith and is worse than an infidel,” can never abandon his own creatures.

He will ever exercise a gracious care over them. -Thomas Whittemore-
 
Old 05-17-2020, 03:41 PM
 
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You have sinned against heaven believing in eternal hell. How do you like those apples Birdy_56 ?.Hey Birdy, did you know the heart of the Father was thrilled seeing the son in the distance of his present state ?.
 
Old 05-17-2020, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's not rational to follow or believe in a god who would torment anyone infinitely for a finite life?
Anyone that believes in that kind of god would be worshiping a wicked god of infinite proportion.
How do people justify in their own mind the thought or belief of a god that would torment a human being forever and ever? It just blows me away listening to someone claim or say that he can do what he wants with his creation, never giving it a second thought to what it is they believe about this god of theirs?


 
Old 05-17-2020, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Townsville QLD Australia.
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The first death is that of the physical womb in which 'YOU' the invisible mind/spirit has developed, the second death is that of the wicked minds. No eternal torment, but never ending oblivion.
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