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Hmm, that's strange, Jesus told me that every sin would be pardoned except the blasphemy of the holy spirit:
Mat_12:31 "Therefore I am saying to you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be pardoned men, yet the blasphemy of the spirit shall not be pardoned.
Do you think that Paul's sins and Hitler's sins fall outside of "every sin" in the verse above?
I think someone else told you to read it like that. Tentmaker, perhaps ? Every sin, except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit CAN BE forgiven. It is not automatic, and the Bible repeats some 200 times that faith is required.
Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Paul was an embittered wannabee who didn't get the position of authority he thought he merited. The whole campaign was to drum-up a following based on the Jesus Theme, but among the gentiles; Pauls own little fiefdom. Sadly other folks caught on and we have been having people wanting to run their own little game ever since.
You might want to check out the history of the Early Christian Church from Nicea and going backwards. Amazing how bad everyone wanted to be known for having THE official position on the whole Jesus Thing.
Paul was an embittered wannabee who didn't get the position of authority he thought he merited. The whole campaign was to drum-up a following based on the Jesus Theme, but among the gentiles; Pauls own little fiefdom. Sadly other folks caught on and we have been having people wanting to run their own little game ever since.
You might want to check out the history of the Early Christian Church from Nicea and going backwards. Amazing how bad everyone wanted to be known for having THE official position on the whole Jesus Thing.
FWIW.
The above is false on all counts.
The Bible shows quite a different reason why Paul was put in the position he was put by God and Christ. I'd say if anyone is embittered it would be you.
I think someone else told you to read it like that. Tentmaker, perhaps ? Every sin, except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit CAN BE forgiven. It is not automatic, and the Bible repeats some 200 times that faith is required.
Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Nope, it wasn't Tentmaker. Jesus didn't say "every sin CAN be pardoned." What is the operative word He used? "Shall be pardoned."
Also Mark 16:16 just means that those who do not believe will be condemned to not be in the coming kingdom. Eventually their sins will be forgiven because Jesus said they will be. Do you think Jesus never knew about Mark 16:16?
The Bible shows quite a different reason why Paul was put in the position he was put by God and Christ. I'd say if anyone is embittered it would be you.
Jesus was dead by the time Paul showed up. And there is nothing wrong with being a religious opportunist. We have had them for centuries. If it gets your juices going to think that God tapped Paul to be a leader thats fine. I've never necessarily attributed ambition to God but He made everything else, so why not, right?
Nope, it wasn't Tentmaker. Jesus didn't say "every sin CAN be pardoned." What is the operative word He used? "Shall be pardoned."
Also Mark 16:16 just means that those who do not believe will be condemned to not be in the coming kingdom. Eventually their sins will be forgiven because Jesus said they will be. Do you think Jesus never knew about Mark 16:16?
Like I said, it is mentioned some 200 times, so there sould be no confusion, but with people who insist on reading it their own way, it could be repeated 1000 times, and they would still deny the truth.
Same word aphethēsetai is used in Acts 8:22 Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you.
It means sins can be forgiven, not that everyone's sins WILL BE forgiven.
Like I said, it is mentioned some 200 times, so there sould be no confusion, but with people who insist on reading it their own way, it could be repeated 1000 times, and they would still deny the truth.
Same word aphethēsetai is used in Acts 8:22 Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you.
It means sins can be forgiven, not that everyone's sins WILL BE forgiven.
Jesus obviously knew He said "all sins shall be pardoned mankind except the sin of blasphemy of the holy spirit." And since those in Acts spoke through the spirit of Christ, Christ obviously knew that what He stated in Acts would not contradict what He said before He died. Therefore how are we to take both statements so there is no contradiction? ****Prior**** to all getting their sins pardoned, there is an era when those Israelites who crucified the Lord had to repent of their act. Dig?
Jesus was dead by the time Paul showed up. And there is nothing wrong with being a religious opportunist. We have had them for centuries. If it gets your juices going to think that God tapped Paul to be a leader thats fine. I've never necessarily attributed ambition to God but He made everything else, so why not, right?
FWIW.
Actually Jesus was alive when Paul showed up because He hand picked the apostle of the nations.
Look bubba, if Paul was some sort of self-anointed freak job, the 12 in Jerusalem would have known it since they were filled with holy spirit and would have seen the snow job Paul would have been trying to perpetrate on the early church. Instead they gave him the right hand of fellowship and agreed he would be for the nations yet they for the Circumcision. It's history.
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