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But the point is not: "Why do preachers preach Hell." Rather, the point is, how is it Satan,
according to the modern teaching, gets his billions but God just a few?
Because when we say I believe in Jesus and the bible we take leave of our senses and end up believing some crazy stuff . Anybody in the their right mind would have to agree that if God lost out in such a way to an adversary, the adversary is the victor.
Because when we say I believe in Jesus and the bible we take leave of our senses and end up believing some crazy stuff . Anybody in the their right mind would have to agree that if God lost out in such a way to an adversary, the adversary is the victor.
Not necessarily. If the majority of people decide to go with Satan, into everlasting destruction, at the will of Jehovah God, I would say Jehovah was the One.
But the Bible isn't a final issue comic book. If my god can beat your god.
I don't think I can do this anymore. I . . . uh . . .
Not necessarily. If the majority of people decide to go with Satan, into everlasting destruction, at the will of Jehovah God, I would say Jehovah was the One.
But the Bible isn't a final issue comic book. If my god can beat your god.
I don't think I can do this anymore. I . . . uh . . .
But it's the will of God that none perish, that is if you interpret perish as meaning annihilates or being fried for eternity.
No. God has predestined those that he wants in Heaven. There is nothing Satan can do about it.
I really feel awful about popping your tidy little package, but "predestination" has been out of vogue as an affront to Free Will for quite some time. You may want to update your spiel....like maybe to the 19th or 20th Century. Like it or not, you have Free Will .....and there is nothing YOU can do about it.
Yes it is, butit isn't the will of God that decides the matter in case the will of the person should intercede.
Jehovah wishes that we wouldn't be so obtuse. That doesn't mean that we won't be.
Well where are your scriptures to support something other than it's Gods will that NONE perish ?. There are no ifs and buts in regards to the will and desire of God, just yea and amen. Can I get an amen ?.
Our Heavenly Father also wishes that we would not stagnate in our misconceptions of his will.
So, according to the popular teaching, Christians teach that Satan is more powerful and more wise than God.
Satan gets his billions while God gets His measly few.
What's "popular" isn't necessary what's "accurate." It's actually going to be the other way around... God gets His billions while Satan gets His measly few.
Well where are your scriptures to support something other than it's Gods will that NONE perish ?. There are no ifs and buts in regards to the will and desire of God, just yea and amen. Can I get an amen ?.
Well, I don't have any scripture to the effect that it is God's will that none parish. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I did, but the will of those that will perish will not have done so in vain.
I mean you are being sarcastic, I know, but if I were a prince appointed by heaven to judge you what would be my criteria? I wouldn't have anyone perish. But, you see, God has said if you do it your way you will perish and he has given you ample time to see that. If your position is that you want to do it your way and perish you take it all with you.
Well, I don't have any scripture to the effect that it is God's will that none parish. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I did, but the will of those that will perish will not have done so in vain.
I mean you are being sarcastic, I know, but if I were a prince appointed by heaven to judge you what would be my criteria? I wouldn't have anyone perish. But, you see, God has said if you do it your way you will perish and he has given you ample time to see that. If your position is that you want to do it your way and perish you take it all with you.
I just cannot see how God can be God if He cannot perform His OWN will.
I really feel awful about popping your tidy little package, but "predestination" has been out of vogue as an affront to Free Will for quite some time. You may want to update your spiel....like maybe to the 19th or 20th Century. Like it or not, you have Free Will .....and there is nothing YOU can do about it.
But.....you have my sympathies.......
FWIW.
No worries. The Bible existed long before the Free Will movement of the 19th and 20th Century. It's clear when it teaches that God chose us before the foundations of the world. God isn't sitting up in heaven hoping Satan doesn't outsmart him. He knows what's going to happen.
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