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Old 04-24-2008, 02:50 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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I haven't been able to see the video on this computer, but Piper Glenn is an upscale neighborhood. But who cares if the house is $400,000 or $4 Million? The lady didn't help her cause by not having her jewely locked up, but there's no reason to flame her for having that much jewelry in her home. It's her home! She could have 1 ton of gold bars or coins in her walls if she wants, it's still her home and nobody has the right to take it.

My biggest complain to your post is your comment about they must have gotten rich on the side and not legitimately. The comment was ignorant.
CG - you make some good points here. The woman did not help her cause by leaving her jewelry out, but the emphasis here does need to be on stopping the criminals from invading our lives and ripping off our homes. Perhaps I was too strident in my criticism about the lady not having her jewelry locked up. Luckily, she didn't get hurt (or worse) and the jewelry was insured.

You are right - no one deserves having their home burgled.
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Old 04-24-2008, 02:58 PM
 
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CG - you make some good points here. The woman did not help her cause by leaving her jewelry out, but the emphasis here does need to be on stopping the criminals from invading our lives and ripping off our homes. Perhaps I was too strident in my criticism about the lady not having her jewelry locked up. Luckily, she didn't get hurt (or worse) and the jewelry was insured.

You are right - no one deserves having their home burgled.
Well Ani, no one deserves to have their child molested or raped by a pedophile either, therefore we don't hire babysitters off the sex offender registry. We act PROACTIVELY to prevent our children being sexually victimized by being cautious about who we bring into our homes and where we allow our kids to go. We must also act PROACTIVELY to protect our homes and their contents. Would you live in a house without fire insurance? Then when it burns down - thru no fault of your own, nothing you could have prevented, do you just expect everyone to feel sorry for you? A lot of good that does you. Feeling sympathy for a victim of anything (crime, abuse, natural disaster) is all well and good, and we should. But come on people, we have to take more personal responsibility when it comes to these kinds of things. If you don't, then you greatly increase your chances of being the person who gets raped, robbed, murdered, or left without jewelry.
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:19 PM
 
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Well Ani, no one deserves to have their child molested or raped by a pedophile either, therefore we don't hire babysitters off the sex offender registry. We act PROACTIVELY to prevent our children being sexually victimized by being cautious about who we bring into our homes and where we allow our kids to go. We must also act PROACTIVELY to protect our homes and their contents. Would you live in a house without fire insurance? Then when it burns down - thru no fault of your own, nothing you could have prevented, do you just expect everyone to feel sorry for you? A lot of good that does you. Feeling sympathy for a victim of anything (crime, abuse, natural disaster) is all well and good, and we should. But come on people, we have to take more personal responsibility when it comes to these kinds of things. If you don't, then you greatly increase your chances of being the person who gets raped, robbed, murdered, or left without jewelry.
Well, I wanna live next door to you, Loves, LOL. I was starting to think maybe I was a big ole meanie for feeling that the woman in this situation should have taken more personal responsibility and not made herself an easy target. My philosophy is - we are all gonna screw up - but on the predictable things (don't leave your car keys in your car; lock your door; close your garage door; put your valuables in a safety deposit box) that we are putting ourselves at risk if we don't try to PREVENT the crime.

I am of the belief that a person's home is his/her castle . . .and yes, we should be able to store what we wish in our homes . . . but I don't want to be a sitting duck, either.
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:53 PM
 
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Default !hat type of statement is that?

"A person who owns 150 grand in jewelry and doesn't live in Malibu HAS to be some kind of white collar criminal."


Uhmm just wanted to let you know that I nor my friends and family are part of the mob and yes I live in a blue collar neighborhood!!!
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:03 PM
 
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Why do I keep on getting attacked for my statements when I wasn't even the first one? Most people own jewelry but that's a very big load. Look, this poster came up with it BEFORE me and their statement hasn't been attacked once.

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$150,000 worth of jewelry is suspicious. Who spends that much on jewelry? Who needs that much in jewelry accessible to wear out to dinner on the spur of the moment?

That's like the scene in that movie Casino where the mob guy sent down to Las Vegas to run a casino convinces the showgirl to marry him by filling a vault with jewelry for her as insurance in case the marriage doesn't work out. Isn't this the sort of stuff people do when they're hiding money from the IRS or from lawsuits or fellow criminals or something, buy diamonds they can put in their pocket and leave the country with at any moment without leaving records? It's just not normal.
I know not everyone who owns that much jewelry is a criminal but worth that much just seems kind of fishy.

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Old 04-24-2008, 04:08 PM
 
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Actually $150k worth of jewelry can be very compact, even just a few pieces.
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:12 PM
 
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But if you watched the video...yes a few VERY precious pieces of metal or stones could be worth that much. In which case, score for the burglar, very very very unfortunate for the victim. But volume doesn't really change what my point was (and another posters as well)...
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:16 PM
 
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Default I think people are attacking your statement

b/c it was very dergoatory towards a certain group of people! Meaning that we are doing something shady if we have jewelery or artwork or whatever valued at 150 or over.
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:38 PM
 
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Why do I keep on getting attacked for my statements when I wasn't even the first one? Most people own jewelry but that's a very big load. Look, this poster came up with it BEFORE me and their statement hasn't been attacked once.



I know not everyone who owns that much jewelry is a criminal but worth that much just seems kind of fishy.
If you go back in the thread, I actually did call that same poster out.

And why does it have to be fishy, just because she has jewelry "worth that much??????" Wow, where are you from? I can think of 6 pieces my wife owns that are worth $10k give or take. Is that fishy too? Have you ever been to Perrys at Southpark? It's estate and antique jewelry and they have a Tiffany engagement ring priced at $173,000! You need to face the facts that some people have a lot of money and they can do with it what they wish, including having $100k's worth of stones. Ridiculous! (I think that's the 3rd time I've used that word today, is it a full moon today???)
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Old 04-24-2008, 04:46 PM
 
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If you go back in the thread, I actually did call that same poster out.

And why does it have to be fishy, just because she has jewelry "worth that much??????" Wow, where are you from? I can think of 6 pieces my wife owns that are worth $10k give or take. Is that fishy too? Have you ever been to Perrys at Southpark? It's estate and antique jewelry and they have a Tiffany engagement ring priced at $173,000! You need to face the facts that some people have a lot of money and they can do with it what they wish, including having $100k's worth of stones. Ridiculous! (I think that's the 3rd time I've used that word today, is it a full moon today???)
No full moon. Waning Gibbous, 83% full. But we did just go into Gemini, so perhaps that is bringing out the feistiness in us all.

I know at least a dozen people who own jewelry collections w/ values over $200,000 (some of the pieces are inherited items). One nice Rolex Oyster can set you back as much as a car - a very nice one, in fact.
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