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Old 07-20-2020, 09:33 AM
 
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Just a daily reminder, the United States now has one of the lowest case fatality rates in the world.



The Branch Covidians are conning you.
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:50 AM
 
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Lockdowns do not work. They are simply killing the economy with the lockdowns. Remember when the first lockdowns were to "flatten the curve" and now it's become "until there is a vaccine!"

This is the latest WHO and CDC data (and mind you the CDC data is probably inflated).



Don't be fooled by the MSM narrative. If you haven't and have been questioning it this entire time, well the data backs you up.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 09:53 AM
 
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Just a daily reminder, the United States now has one of the lowest case fatality rates in the world.



The Branch Covidians are conning you.
No, actually it is the deniers and conspiracists who use phrases like “Branch Covidians” who are conning you with specious sophistry intended to obfuscate that factors such as fatality rate should be the driver of policy - when the rate of infection is overwhelmingly runaway. Example: a 1% rate of 1,000 yields the number 10 ... whereas 1% of 100,000 yields the number 1,000 deaths.

Furthermore: our relative position to other countries has no bearing on seriousness to Americans.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:06 AM
 
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No, actually it is the deniers and conspiracists who use phrases like “Branch Covidians” who are conning you with specious sophistry intended to obfuscate that factors such as fatality rate should be the driver of policy - when the rate of infection is overwhelmingly runaway. Example: a 1% rate of 1,000 yields the number 10 ... whereas 1% of 100,000 yields the number 1,000 deaths.
Is that counting the cases they over counted or plainly just made up? Because 9.8% is the same as 98% right? Asking for a friend.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-orange-county

https://www.king5.com/article/news/h...c-cdbd43c8cd82

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fo..._8vd6S-o3El3bc

This will eventually be exposed as one of the biggest cons in the world.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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Lockdowns do not work. They are simply killing the economy with the lockdowns. Remember when the first lockdowns were to "flatten the curve" and now it's become "until there is a vaccine!"

This is the latest WHO and CDC data (and mind you the CDC data is probably inflated).



Don't be fooled by the MSM narrative. If you haven't and have been questioning it this entire time, well the data backs you up.
There hasn’t been any true “lockdown” in the US such as was done in Italy and Spain and Wuhan, et al. Our entire nation has remained very much open except for bars and restaurants and select retail venues that were closed for a couple months ... and then reopened to disastrous results.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:08 AM
 
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The graph that is posted is very confusing, they have the USA listed, Netherlands, Canada etc, & then Florida & Texas. Does that mean those states are not listed in the USA stats?
 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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There hasn’t been any true “lockdown” in the US such as was done in Italy
The data doesn't support lockdowns at all. They don't work. There literally isn't any data backed case you can make that shows the efficacy of lockdowns.



Even if they did, it would be for naught when ANTIFA protests and BLM is allowed to run free regardless of a lockdown policy or not.
 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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Is that counting the cases they over counted or plainly just made up? Because 9.8% is the same as 98% right? Asking for a friend.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-orange-county

https://www.king5.com/article/news/h...c-cdbd43c8cd82

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fo..._8vd6S-o3El3bc

This will eventually be exposed as one of the biggest cons in the world.
More specious nonsense from you. Errors occur all the time in reporting ... and are caught and corrected ... without significantly changing the reality. Chase individual localized stories till your fingers go numb ... doesn’t change the truth of the composite picture I just pointed out:

When the infectiousness is extreme as is proving the case, then the numbers of victims seriously affected / killed are devastating to both families affected and the economy.

Do you deny that critical care hospital beds are now becoming overwhelmed or close to being overwhelmed in a number of states and cities since the lowered curve has resumed sharply upward after “reopenings” of retail sectors were enacted? Do you understand that medical professionals are getting sick more and more and hitting ‘burnout’?
 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:23 AM
 
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Errors occur all the time in reporting ...
No they don't. Not in CDC reporting they don't.

They don't occur dozens of times, with seemingly little care for accuracy, counting process, or maintaining data integrity. That's called incompetence, or even worse, intent to deceive.

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Do you deny that critical care hospital beds are now becoming overwhelmed
Yes.

https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/covid19/rep...hor_1587406852
 
Old 07-20-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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The data doesn't support lockdowns at all. They don't work. There literally isn't any data backed case you can make that shows the efficacy of lockdowns.



Even if they did, it would be for naught when ANTIFA protests and BLM is allowed to run free regardless of a lockdown policy or not.
Lo ‘effing L” ... more specious sophistry. Non-stop from you. THERE HAVEN’T BEEN ANY TRUE LOCKDOWNS TO MEASURE IN AMERICA. So, yeah, you can’t have “data based cases” to measure efficacy. DUH.

And now you try to non-sequiturially insert ANTIFA and BLM protests. Hahahahahahahahaha. Funnier and funnier. Get blown away by logic? Respond by reaching into the barrel for unrelated trigger issues.

First off: ANTIFA has been rabidly accused of responsibility for recent protests across the nation ... and yet authorities are unable to identify and arrest and prosecute anyone identified with the movement. Go look it up.

Second: the protests are unrelated to the disease in any measurable way. They are not a driver. Daily socialization and commerce are drivers ... not random short-term outbursts.

Find stats to back up your crap.
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