06-26-2011, 06:56 PM
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I see you are also having trouble dealing with the facts that I have posted....don't feel ashamed....many fear the truth and choose to avoid it as a defensive mechanism to maintain their strained world views.
"There is not a truth existing which I fear... or would wish unknown to the whole world." Thomas Jefferson
You're quoting a guy who raped and impregnated a woman that he was keeping as a slave?
06-26-2011, 07:25 PM
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northwinds, no one is attacking you I just don't agree with you. You spent all these hours to find someting to post, modern day slavery from wikipedia that basically goes over prostitution/human trafficing and or marriage related issues. Did you read what you posted? The same issues can be said about the United States. Does polygamy ring a bell? Also, human trafficing is happening here and around the world. But it's different because it also happens in Africa right?Anyways, I don't mean to give history lessons here. But Africa is a GREAT continent that one should see at least once in their lifetime.
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06-26-2011, 08:15 PM
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06-26-2011, 08:42 PM
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@bayarea-girl who wrote:
"There is no cleansing or genocide of white people in South Africa. There are parts of South Africa that is having issues with race relations but that is not all of Africa or all of South Africa." .... well, at least I won't have to watch Letterman's monologue tonight to get my laughs.....you're infantile ignorance is quite enough....perhaps you should chat with the relatives of these 3000 plus white farmers who have been murdered in SA:
White farmers 'being wiped out' - Times Online
I'm quite sure that if 3000
black farmers had been murdered in the
U.S. you would also consider it "no big deal" and show us pretty pictures of Mississippi and Alabama.....LMAO and SMH. As far as "history lessons" go I'll get mine from reality....not LaLa land.....
06-26-2011, 08:50 PM
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You're quoting a guy who raped and impregnated a woman that he was keeping as a slave?
This is how you would describe the author of the Declaration of Independence and one of the creators of the greatest country ever established on this planet.....pathetic....and it is proof positive of the complete devolution of our once great country. There is no proof that Jefferson fathered any of Hemmings children....certainly no evidence that he "raped" her. They may or may not have had a loving relationship that conceived a child...no harm there....he took her to Paris for goodness sake...what a romantic!
06-26-2011, 08:57 PM
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Northwinds, clearly we aren't going to see eye to eye. More than 3,000 blacks (African) farmers had been killed in parts of Africa (So. Africa too). This rarely makes the news. What exactly is your point. Crime happens every where. To whom it happens to is not right but it happens. What is your point? How is this Lala Land? Why are you posting OLD articles? Where those White farmers are located they should move and or build relationships with the people that are killing them. South Africa is not Compton. If Africans kill they do it for a reason and not just because, the issue isn't even so much that they are white. Have you thought about that? Also, since you are an expert in Africa, when were you there last?
06-26-2011, 09:10 PM
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@bayarea-girl who wrote: "Where those White farmers are located they should move and or build relationships with the people that are killing them."
06-26-2011, 09:17 PM
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Northwinds, you've never been in Africa. That is clear. Why you are making it seem that I prefer whites getting killed over people of color a subject matter to suit your arguement is very childish and doesn't make it so. No one deserves to be killed so what is your point? The White South Africans took land that belonged to other people. So yes, they should try to work things out with the Black So. Africans they stole land from. The White farmers were not angels in keeping apartheid alive. People have to meet in the middle to create and keep the peace so there is no more bloodshed.
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06-26-2011, 09:19 PM
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This is how you would describe the author of the Declaration of Independence and one of the creators of the greatest country ever established on this planet.....pathetic....and it is proof positive of the complete devolution of our once great country. There is no proof that Jefferson fathered any of Hemmings children....certainly no evidence that he "raped" her. They may or may not have had a loving relationship that conceived a child...no harm there....he took her to Paris for goodness sake...what a romantic!
"Sally Hemings (1773-1835), was a slave at Thomas Jefferson’s Monticello, pictured, and was the third president’s mistress, according to a DNA analysis in 1998." -
Sally Hemings News - The New York Times
Also, you are aware that it was a common practice for slave owners to RAPE their slaves, correct? Oh but its not REALLY slavery and rape if a white man does it, correct? The mere fact that you're seeking to excuse the fact that a man held human beings as slaves, and fathered (*cough* raped) a child with said enslaved person that he refused to claim is disgusting.
06-26-2011, 09:45 PM
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"Sally Hemings (1773-1835), was a slave at Thomas Jefferson’s Monticello, pictured, and was the third president’s mistress, according to a DNA analysis in 1998." -
Sally Hemings News - The New York Times
Also, you are aware that it was a common practice for slave owners to RAPE their slaves, correct? Oh but its not REALLY slavery and rape if a white man does it, correct? The mere fact that you're seeking to excuse the fact that a man held human beings as slaves, and fathered (*cough* raped) a child with said enslaved person that he refused to claim is disgusting.
The DNA analysis in the Jefferson/Hemmings case is inconclusive as to Thomas Jefferson. It could have been one of a number of Jeffersons who fathered one or more of the Hemmings children. I will admit that Jefferson and Hemmings must have had a pretty special relastionship since he took her to Paris in the 1800s when most white folks couldn't afford to go there....ever take a girl to Paris?...you should try it some time. And I suppose your analysis that slave owners always "rape" their slaves also goes to the African slave holders in todays world...right.....but its not "really rape if a black man does it, correct?"......I'm sure you prefer such paragons of leadership like Zimbabwe's Mugabe over folks like Thomas Jefferson......LOL. My position is that we should not strengthen ties with countries like South Africa and Zimbabwe which are actively engaged in ethnic cleansing. I'm not sure how Thomas Jefferson factors into that discussion.....
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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