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Old 12-27-2012, 05:12 AM
 
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Explain please? that this law? And how about that every state has its own laws, it can act to all states?

United States citizenship is NOT determined by individual states -- that's a federal law, specifically detailed in the Constitution.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:13 AM
 
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With all due respect, you are obviously not familiar with the U.S. Constitution and adoption law.




That's wonderful, and I mean that sincerely. I hope, then, that all of Russia's children will be adopted by your fellow countrymen and the orphanages closed. Finding loving homes for these children is the ultimate goal and if you can do it without international assistance, then that's how you should proceed.
I can understand you too. of course there are loving and sincere parents in the U.S.. But is not it time to revise the laws of the U.S. American parents could adopt children from the U.S. foster homes. In the U.S., twice as many children who are in orphanages.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:15 AM
 
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I can understand you too. of course there are loving and sincere parents in the U.S.. But is not it time to revise the laws of the U.S. American parents could adopt children from the U.S. foster homes. In the U.S., twice as many children who are in orphanages.
As far I know, there are no orphanages (certainly very, very few) in the United States. There are foster homes, but that's MUCH different from the large institutions found in other countries.

And, yes, unfortunately there are many children in foster homes. One of the social goals of this country is eventual reunification of the child with his/her family, so many of those children are not actually available for adoption.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:15 AM
 
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United States citizenship is NOT determined by individual states -- that's a federal law, specifically detailed in the Constitution.
As well as in Russia and any other country, but in reality out otherwise.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:18 AM
 
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As far I know, there are no orphanages (certainly very, very few) in the United States. There are foster homes, but that's MUCH different from the large institutions found in other countries.

And, yes, unfortunately there are many children in foster homes. One of the social goals of this country is eventual reunification of the child with his/her family, so many of those children are not actually available for adoption.
This is just the definition is the same as in Russia. Just called differently
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:18 AM
 
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As well as in Russia and any other country, but in reality out otherwise.
No, the reality in the United States is that citizenship is determined at the Federal level, not by the individual states.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:18 AM
 
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Grey- I think we will both agree that a vast majority of parents- either natural or adoptive ALL OVER THE WORLD want what is best for our children and love them unconditionally. We both know as well that there are sick and evil people ALL OVER THE WORLD who don't know how to parent, are not equipped for the challenges and who do harm their children no matter how they came to them...through birth or adoption.

In this country adopted children are granted full citizenship rights when they enter the country. There is no differentiation for children born in the USA or adopted as far as the law. You obviously are very misinformed about USA. That is sad.

The law is applied to everybody. If a child is harmed it makes no difference if it is adopted or not. And unfortunately both countries have jails with parents who have harmed their children. Here if an adopted child is harmed it makes BIG HEADLINES. People are furious that such a thing can happen and we demand justice. We also are furious and sad that ANY child is harmed, especially at the hands of its own parents.

Americans are very loving and compassionate people. There are actually waiting list for Down Syndrome children. We open our hearts and homes to disabled children from all over the world so you are very wrong when you say Americans only want healthy children. Actually most Americans are aware of the incredibly huge problem Russia has with alcoholism and lack of prenatal care for pregnant women, especially alcoholic pregnant women. Yet they are still very eager to provide homes for the children born to such women.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:20 AM
 
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This is just the definition is the same as in Russia. Just called differently
You are seriously misinformed. Foster homes are NOT the same as orphanages.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:22 AM
 
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I understand parents who want to adopt it in a very young age, which makes it impossible almost in America. But there are parents who can not be tested on the psyche. Then they adopt children in other countries where the laws are less strict.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:25 AM
 
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I understand parents who want to adopt it in a very young age, which makes it impossible almost in America. But there are parents who can not be tested on the psyche. Then they adopt children in other countries where the laws are less strict.
Ridiculous.
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