Crime in Mn (voucher, stats, design)

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by Kavalier

If that is true (and I don't believe for half a second that this statement is accurate - your link doesn't work, but I will try to Google myself and see what I can find), then why does the Met Council make it about race?





While minority residents have been streaming into the Twin Cities' suburbs for the past 15 years, the Met Council wants to make sure there is a proper race-and-income mix in each.

I just fixed the link. To be honest the numbers surprised me too. Greater Minnesota is full of poor white people though so I guess that added up.

[Kavalier]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

According to government reporting white people use 78% of available public housing in the state of Minnesota. Blacks use 12% and Hispanic/Latinos use 4%, Asians 4% and Native Americans 3%.

https://hudapps.hud.gov/public/picj2...=false&count=0

Is your link talking explicitly about MN?


Blacks make up about....4% of the population, correct? So they use three times their numbers in public housing?


If whites are 86% of the MN population, seems they are underrepresented in the housing assistance stats then, too.

[Kavalier]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

I just fixed the link. To be honest the numbers surprised me too. Greater Minnesota is full of poor white people though so I guess that added up.

And I saw a statistic not long ago that pointed out that minorities (whom are around 15% of the entire population of MN), use HALF of all welfare resources in the state. That is a staggering and astonishing overrepresentation and use of a tremendous amount of resources for such a small segment of the MN population.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by Kavalier

And I saw a statistic not long ago that pointed out that minorities (whom are around 15% of the entire population of MN), use HALF of all welfare resources in the state. That is a staggering and astonishing overrepresentation and use of a tremendous amount of resources for such a small segment of the MN population.

I think both statements are true. It is well known that there is a large racial wealth gap in Minneapolis/St. Paul. At the same time, the state, which is still majority white, has TONS of poor white people and they utilize a healthy majority of the state’s available publicly subsidized housing.

[Kavalier]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

I think both statements are true. It is well known that there is a large racial wealth gap in Minneapolis/St. Paul. At the same time, the state, which is still majority white, has TONS of poor white people and they utilize a healthy majority of the state’s available publicly subsidized housing.

"Tons"? "Poor" by what standard?


Considering MN is at the top of the entire nation in all manner of stats (education, health care, life expectancy), I call BS on this statement that there are "tons" of poor whites.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by Kavalier

"Tons"? "Poor" by what standard?

Considering MN is at the top of the entire nation in all manner of stats (education, health care, life expectancy), I call BS on this statement that there are "tons" of poor whites.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services set 2017 poverty guidelines as household income below $24,600/year for a family of four and below $12,060 for an individual.

Look at the report I linked. Minnesota has 15679 public housing units. 78% of these units are occupied by white people.

What is the poorest city in the state you ask? Answer = Little Falls, population 8696…and 96% white.

[Kavalier]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

Look at the report I linked. Minnesota has 15679 public housing units. 78% of these units are occupied by white people.

In a state that is 5.64 million people. Does that confirm there's "tons" of poor whites in MN?


The most relevant stat is: half of all welfare goes to the 15% minority residents.

[Cruz Azul Guy]

Originally Posted by Kavalier

In a state that is 5.64 million people. Does that confirm there's "tons" of poor whites in MN?


The most relevant stat is: half of all welfare goes to the 15% minority residents.

You’re splitting hairs, friend. I think the takeaway here is that your assumption that all the poverty and public resources in the state are used by minorities and refugees is false. It’s a myth. Please get over it so we can move on.

[Kavalier]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

You’re splitting hairs, friend. I think the takeaway here is that your assumption that all the poverty and public resources in the state are used by minorities and refugees is false. It’s a myth. Please get over it so we can move on.

I never claimed minorities use "all" the welfare. I do stand by the statement that they are massively over represented in the use of welfare though (and you yourself don't deny it it).

Moreover, and coming back to the original intent of this thread (crime), they are also massively over represented in the violent crime stats as well (which I'm sure you won't refute either).

Have a nice day.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy

According to government reporting white people use 78% of available public housing in the state of Minnesota. Blacks use 12% and Hispanic/Latinos use 4%, Asians 4% and Native Americans 3%.

https://pic.hud.gov/pic/RCRPublic/rcrstate.asp

Only 6% of Minnesotans are black, so the 12% of blacks using section 8 housing is grossly disproportionate.