12-09-2007, 10:44 PM
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Hey everyone. I'll be applying to colleges in a little bit and I'm interested in moving to Miami since here in LA, when it gets below 50*, i'm freezing. And, I would like to try experiencing living somewhere else. Miami seems like a really cool city to me, and yes, I do plan on visiting before I attend if I'm accepted.
So, I'm thinking of applying to University of Miami. How is it? Is it a respectable college in Florida? Also, is it like University of Southern California (USC), meaning it's in the ghetto. USC is in the middle of South Central LA. I don't want to be somewhere like that.
How do you think University of Miami and Miami University compare? Is one thought of as more pristine than the other? Looking at the scores for the two, it seems like U of Miami is better, but only by 10 SAT points in each category. My scores were 530 on Math, 570 on Critical Reading, and 630 on Writing. I'm definitely planning on raising my Math scores since those scores are without any preparation.
And, yes, I have checked out University of Florida and Florida State University, but I don't want to live in Gainseville or Tallahassee.
Has anyone been to one of the two ( MU or U of M)?
Thanks for any input you have on these colleges.
12-10-2007, 12:43 AM
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Also, is it like University of Southern California (USC), meaning it's in the ghetto. USC is in the middle of South Central LA. I don't want to be somewhere like that.
The University of Miami is located in the town of Coral Gables, a few miles southwest of downtown Miami.
The Miami area has few good towns/neighborhoods, but Coral Gables is one of the best, in the heart of the relatively narrow corridor served by the Metrorail, from downtown/Brickell to Dadeland.
Just south of Coral Gables is the town of South Miami and just east Coconut Grove a neighborhood of Miami proper.
If your finances allow the rental of a nice apartment in Coral Gables (zip codes 33146 and 33134, or South Miami 33143), then "neighborhood" should not be an issue.
As for quality of the universities, I have the impression that most people on this sub-forum are in that age group where such questions don't matter anymore. Though you may receive a few opinions, you may want to do deeper research from other sources.
Having said that, my general impression is that it does not matter where you spend your first two years of university, the curriculum is pretty much the same, generally speaking, so if you think you might like the town, the Miami lifestyle, go for it, you can always switch in your junior year.
More important than the quality of this or that university, in my view, is the quality of this or that school/faculty, the quality of the curriculum in your chosen field of study (eventually) in that school/faculty, and the quality of the professors in that particular program. Generally speaking, one does not have to focus sharply on such issues in the first two years. But if, in your case, you feel that it makes sense to focus sharply on such issues now, then you have to organize your research around them, too detailed for an incisive response on this sub-forum, I believe.
12-10-2007, 01:16 AM
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I actually want to do something with sciences. Maybe a dentist/cosmetic dentist. No orthodontistry. I hate the sound of grinding metal. Beinga veternarian would be cool. I also like meteorology, but it would probably be a hard career field to enter.
12-10-2007, 01:51 AM
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Sounds like you're not too sure yet what you want to major in, quite normal at this stage.
I would say take another hard, first-hand look at both Tampa and Miami and decide which area you like more.
Also don't neglect Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton. I do not believe it is a top school, but it is moving up, and you may like the area.
Good luck!
12-10-2007, 10:51 PM
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I'm a little bit confused as to why you are comparing University of Miami (a medium-sized private school in Coral Gables, FL) with Miami University (a large public university located in Ohio). Miami University is much older (1850s versus 1920s) and is named after a Native American tribe that used to live in the area.
In the opinion of many people I've talked to (U of M students and non), University of Miami has a hefty price tag (like many private universities do) without the superior strengths in many academic programs to warrant it. I think that the exceptions are the business school and the music and arts programs. Otherwise, you can get more bang for your buck elsewhere. Although it doesn't apply in your case, Florida high-school graduates can qualify for the Florida Bright Futures program where if you have a 3.0 GPA, you can pretty much go to any FL state school with your tuition paid for (still have to foot fees and room & board...which can be pricey...but not as much as private tuition!). For undergraduate work in fact, University of Florida outshines UM since UF is listed with the Association of American Universities (reserved for the top-tier research universities) and offers a lot more in the way of majors and programs.
University of Miami does have a strong reputation in graduate education in the area; with it's medical school, business school and law school (although again UF's law school is seen as a tad more prestigious) funneling many professionals in South Florida to give plenty of network opportunities.
On a national scale, I think UM is known for it's unique character, sports, and location more than it's academics. The school also offers some innovative programs like Music Engineering and Carribbean Studies. However locally, most people don't see UM as the best school around...for whatever reasons. I guess they feel like if they are going to pay that kind of money for college, why not go to Emory or Carnegie Mellon or something.
12-10-2007, 11:11 PM
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Yeah, about Miami University, I thought that was also in Miami. I just happened to see the name and have done no research on it yet. I learned earlier today it's in Miami. Sooo...forget about MU.
Well, UF is a great school, but I wouldn't want to live there. I would only live in Miami, Tampa, or somewhere along the eastern coast of FL. What are some good ones not too far from MIA or WPB or FTL?
12-11-2007, 12:03 AM
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University of Florida is the best university in the state!!!
12-11-2007, 01:01 AM
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What are some good ones not too far from MIA or WPB or FTL?
As I said, look into Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton. It offers a wide range of study, but I don't know anything about the quality, probably mediocre, but most everything is mediocre, isn't it?
Again, as I said, while it is fun to talk about the quality and prestige of this or that university, it really depends on the curriculum and faculty for a particular field of study (the above poster gave you some detailed insight into UoM).
There are also several minor universities in SE Florida, like Barry University, one or two in Broward, one or two near WPB, but they are so minor that I can't remember their names.
There are so many websites listing universities and colleges in all 50 states, and all around planet earth, you can easily find the information yourself in about 15 minutes, maybe 16.
12-11-2007, 06:11 AM
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Well, UF is a great school, but I wouldn't want to live there. I would only live in Miami, Tampa, or somewhere along the eastern coast of FL. What are some good ones not too far from MIA or WPB or FTL?
Well it comes back to what you want to go to college for; and what you're willing to pay. Being that you're out of state, the state schools may be just as expensive because they don't offer that much financial aid to out-of-staters...but it depends. Overall...I would say that UM is the best school in the region; but mostly because of it's size relative to it's endowment and offerings. I (and this is my take from working in the region with graduates from many different schools) believe Florida International University (also in Miami) has superior programs in Business (particularly International Business...which is big in FL) and Education. Florida Atlantic University (multi-campus, but main one is in Boca Raton) has some great engineering programs (especially the ocean engineering program), and biotechnology programs. Nova University (Ft. Lauderdale) is another private school which is popular with non-traditional students because of their numerous distance-learning options (but I wouldn't recommend them for a traditional college student in that the on-campus atmosphere is kind of dead). Barry University is another school with an excellent program for education majors (private Catholic University). But again, I think UM tops regional schools because with many of these universities, you'll have some stellar programs existing alongside of some duds (like FIU's music program) which makes UM come on top all-around.
Over in Tampa, you have University of South Florida (another big state school), The New College of the University of South Florida (one of the BEST colleges in the entire country....hard to get into though...
very hard), University of Tampa (small and private), and maybe some others.
I myself went to college in a rural area and then in the city. I don't know if you can consider where you go to school where you "live". I say this because although you may spend the majority of the year there...you still have to "get out" of the dorms (mandatory in a lot of cases for first year students who don't have families nearby) on break periods...and you don't have a lot of time to work. As far as social life -- colleges tend to create that on their own. Also, I think the "social scene" in Miami is out of reach for most college-kids (it's expensive, and 21+). Don't get me wrong, I don't think I would have wanted to go to school in Gainesville either (a bit isolated). However, I don't feel that Miami is such a great college-city; like New York, Chicago or even Atlanta...where you are exposed to a more diverse economy and cultural life.
12-11-2007, 07:43 AM
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FIU is located in western Miami in a section known as Westchester, mostly low-income Hispanic, I believe. The nearest "upscale" neighborhood is Doral, a bit further north, also pre-dominantly Hispanic. The next closest residence option is southwestern Broward (Miramar, Pembroke Pines), but then you set yourself up for an unpleasant commute.
Jessemh431 posted before several months ago with similar questions. I really think she should check out Boca Raton: knowing what she is looking for, biotechnology at FAU while living in Boca may be useful, interesting, and pleasant.
Good luck!
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Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)