Beshear in Kentucky Governor’s Race (Lexington, Somerset: school, taxes, living in)

[Crazee Cat Lady]

The electoral college is only used for Presidential elections. All governor races are popular vote.

^then that explains it.

I was wondering why even though Kentucky is a very red state in most elections...our state legislature is almost all
Republican - and the state always goes Red in Presidential elections... we usually statistically are more likely to elect a Democrat to the Governor's race. That explains it, Louisville and Lexington have a tendency to vote blue (Louisville a lot, Lexington a little bit)but the combined metro population of the two areas
Louisville metro area -1,395,634 population

Lexington metro area -517,056
So together that is almost 2 million people -Kentucky population is around 4.5 million
^of course not all of that population is of voting age, or will bother voting if they are
(and not every person in those cities will vote Democratic just like every person in the rural areas are going to vote
Republican...the that seems to be the trend overall.


It explains a lot.

[marino760]

Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady

^then that explains it.

I was wondering why even though Kentucky is a very red state in most elections...our state legislature is almost all
Republican - and the state always goes Red in Presidential elections... we usually statistically are more likely to elect a Democrat to the Governor's race. That explains it, Louisville and Lexington have a tendency to vote blue (Louisville a lot, Lexington a little bit)but the combined metro population of the two areas
Louisville metro area -1,395,634 population

Lexington metro area -517,056
So together that is almost 2 million people -Kentucky population is around 4.5 million
^of course not all of that population is of voting age, or will bother voting if they are
(and not every person in those cities will vote Democratic just like every person in the rural areas are going to vote
Republican...the that seems to be the trend overall.


It explains a lot.

I believe the population of Louisville you quote includes suburbs, which include some in Indiana and they can't vote in KY elections, so the population number you quote for Louisville is much larger than what really exists within the city. The census for the city of Louisville in 2020 was 246,000 within city limits. The larger metro area Louisville Jefferson county was about 387,000. Perhaps I'm reading this census chart wrong but anyone can correct me. The census chart shows an estimate for total Louisville population at about 625,000 in 2022
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...ucky/POP010220

Lexington is solid Blue, period. It's not light blue or purple. It consistently votes for democrats in every election and has done so for several years now. I can't see how anyone would consider Lexington purple anymore.

Interestingly, the counties which include Cincinnati suburbs on the KY side of the river still remain red. They all voted majority republican in the last presidential election.

This is why KY remains a deep red state despite often times voting for a Dem for governor. For many Kentuckians, it's about the candidate, not the D or R by their name. They vote for who lines up best with their values and beliefs.
The populations of Louisville and Lexington are not nearly enough to cancel out the population of the rest of the state in state and national elections.

This is just my opinion, but if republicans have a good likable candidate for governor, that candidate will win the governor's race. I believe Cameron meets that description. I've had the privilege of meeting him. The road block is that Beshear is an incumbent, has the backing and money of the White House behind him, and has been a master of good photo ops and taking credit for things he most likely had little to do with.

[Crazee Cat Lady]

Yes you are right about the population ...to get those numbers, I just did a quick google search googling 'Louisville Metro area population'
and "Lexington Metro population"...and I forgot that the metro area would include Southern Indiana. (My bad since I grew up in Louisville!) Lexington's Metro area though includes Versailles, Paris, Nicholasville, Georgetown which I am assuming would be much more conservative than Lexington.


You are right no where in Lexington according to this map anyway is actually conservative. Some area's are split though....as is the area where we live.

[marino760]

Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady

Yes you are right about the population ...to get those numbers, I just did a quick google search googling 'Louisville Metro area population'
and "Lexington Metro population"...and I forgot that the metro area would include Southern Indiana. (My bad since I grew up in Louisville!) Lexington's Metro area though includes Versailles, Paris, Nicholasville, Georgetown which I am assuming would be much more conservative than Lexington.

I'm not being disagreeable but have to disagree

Those other towns you mention are not part of the Lexington-Fayette County metro area. They are in other counties with independent local governments, county seats, as recognized by the census and state of KY. Yes, they are more conservative than Lexington, that's why Lexington is Blue and those other locations are red.

[Crazee Cat Lady]

Originally Posted by marino760

I'm not being disagreeable but have to disagree

Those other towns you mention are not part of the Lexington-Fayette County metro area. They are in other counties with independent local governments, county seats, as recognized by the census and state of KY. Yes, they are more conservative than Lexington, that's why Lexington is Blue and those other locations are red.

Yes they are their own Independent towns and regions of course, but statistically the way they determine metro areas
they are considered part of the Metro area


They may not take 'metro areas' into consideration in voting counts though....so yes, you are probably right on that account.

[marino760]

Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady

Yes they are their own Independent towns and regions of course, but statistically the way they determine metro areas
they are considered part of the Metro area


They may not take 'metro areas' into consideration in voting counts though....so yes, you are probably right on that account.

Good to know and thank you for clarifying.

[Oldhag1]

Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady

^He strongly denies that he supports gender reassignment surgery for minors.
He says it has never even happened in Kentucky.
Democratic governor pushes back against transgender-related attacks by GOP in Kentucky campaign

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https://www.kentuckyfried.com/beshea...gery-not-true/


Since WWII only three Republicans have been elected Governor and none of those were re-elected.

We haven't turned into California yet!
Besides, Beshear is about as Moderate as you can get.


So while we always vote Red in Presidential Elections and for the General Assembly, it's not always so for the Governor's race.



Does anyone know if we elect the Governor through popular vote or through the electoral college vote like we do the Presidency?

All state wide offices in Kentucky, including Governor, are elected through popular vote.

[Oldhag1]

Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady

^He strongly denies that he supports gender reassignment surgery for minors.
He says it has never even happened in Kentucky.
Democratic governor pushes back against transgender-related attacks by GOP in Kentucky campaign

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https://www.kentuckyfried.com/beshea...gery-not-true/


Since WWII only three Republicans have been elected Governor and none of those were re-elected.

We haven't turned into California yet!
Besides, Beshear is about as Moderate as you can get.


So while we always vote Red in Presidential Elections and for the General Assembly, it's not always so for the Governor's race.



Does anyone know if we elect the Governor through popular vote or through the electoral college vote like we do the Presidency?

As an educator, my problem in this arena with Beshear is that his Education Commissioner sent down notification that schools were to keep secrets from parents, demanded that teachers use declared pronouns regardless of their own beliefs, and bathroom facilities will be used according to their identified gender, as opposed to just letting them use single user facilities. There were also indications that sports were the next thing that would be determined on how they identified as opposed to their biology. I don’t personally have an issue with transgenderism in adults, and I get we are talking about deeply unhappy students, but these types of policies, which may seem like a quick fix in the short term, are detrimental to children in the long run.

I don’t want to get in a big debate about transgenderism, and it would not be appropriate for this thread or forum, but you do have to consider who a governor is going to appoint to positions as important as the Education Commissioner.

[marino760]

Well, that's another point about who ever becomes governor. They will make appointments even to local county governments when the opportunity arises, reflecting and pushing their own politics and agenda. The Judge Executive of the county I live in died while in office. His replacement was a much more liberal democrat appointed by Beshear.

[cremebrulee]

Originally Posted by marino760

Well, that's another point about who ever becomes governor. They will make appointments even to local county governments when the opportunity arises, reflecting and pushing their own politics and agenda. The Judge Executive of the county I live in died while in office. His replacement was a much more liberal democrat appointed by Beshear.

and maybe this is where Beshear made a huge mistake, b/c when it comes to our kids, we all become like bears with a sawed off paw.