[firmbizzle]

Originally Posted by Julio July

I mean, why do you care that a black person is looking for an area where they can be around mostly other black people? White people don't generally want to be around too many---if ANY---black people ANYWAY. That's where the whole occurrence of WHITE FLIGHT comes from, and history and sociology (basically, FACTS) back that up. You're just gaslighting...

Because this thread isn't about Dino1 and he feels left out but can't just ignore the thread.

[cjairo191]

Originally Posted by Arcenal813

Which is why I was quick to respond with suggestions in Central Florida based on my experience as a mixed (black Caribbean and white French) upper-middle class man. In Orlando, OP can easily find what he/she is looking for in a good half of Seminole County (Lake Mary/West Sanford especially,) Winter Park, and Baldwin Park. I feel right at home in those areas.
I lived in Lake County for a while, and still visit fairly often, and couldn't see myself ever living there again, in large part due to demographics not steering in the direction I am attracted to.

I will say, there ARE very, VERY few black families in south Tampa, so there is some truth to Sinatras' post.

South Tampa is not known outside of Tampa. It’s dry and boring at times. Look up history of Hyde park. They gentrified it. It’s wealthy down to Gandy and floods all the time. The bayshore stinks on occasion and the mountain you see in the distance is a trash mound.

[cjairo191]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Please enlighten us with your list of the copious amounts of upper class black neighborhoods in Florida.

I will enlighten the OP to do research on YouTube and ask actual African Americans and not closet you know what on city data.

https://youtu.be/0nnyz3PT1Y8?si=5ugxYV9cbWUmsHsK

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by cjairo191

South Tampa is not known outside of Tampa. It’s dry and boring at times. Look up history of Hyde park. They gentrified it. It’s wealthy down to Gandy and floods all the time. The bayshore stinks on occasion and the mountain you see in the distance is a trash mound.

Oh I know all about flooding in Hyde Park. My friend has a condo down there, and the parking lot seems to always be under a foot of water.

[FL_Expert]

Originally Posted by cjairo191

South Tampa is not known outside of Tampa. It’s dry and boring at times. Look up history of Hyde park. They gentrified it. It’s wealthy down to Gandy and floods all the time. The bayshore stinks on occasion and the mountain you see in the distance is a trash mound.

That mountain is actually a phosphate mine if I’m not mistaken… However, all the industrial junk you see over there really is an eye sore. Particularly Harbour Island and Davis Island, I’m not doubt even it’s healthy to live that close.

[gypsychic]

Originally Posted by cjairo191

South Tampa is not known outside of Tampa. It’s dry and boring at times. Look up history of Hyde park. They gentrified it. It’s wealthy down to Gandy and floods all the time. The bayshore stinks on occasion and the mountain you see in the distance is a trash mound.

I am old, and I grew up in Tampa. I remember when Hyde Park was one of the worst areas of town, scary, dangerous and almost "ghetto." I had friends that rented apartments in falling down old houses for $60 a month. I always thought they were brave to live there. About a decade later is when the gentrification started and we all know how that ended.

I have to agree about all the bad smells around there that have been mentioned.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by silverct9a

So accurate and embarrassingly true. You can add these stickers to the list: Let's go Brandon, Trump 2020/2024, FloGrown, Local (upside Florida as the "L"), Joe Biden "I did that" stickers at random gas stations, Don't tread on me, Don't New York my Florida etc.

What do all these eyesores have in common? They further promote division, and an "us" vs "them" mentality that's embraced by those on the right. To lessen your chances of seeing these things, stick to college towns (not the surrounding areas unfortunately) and most of South Florida.

South Florida?

I own a multi-million dollar home in Pinecrest (inheritance). Not the most affluent neighborhood in So Fla obv but certainly affluent.

https://www.zillow.com/pinecrest-fl/

Absolutely minimal black presence there also (as is the case in 99% of affluent areas of Miami Dade).

[silverct9a]

I mostly agree with you but that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

To clarify, I was saying that if one wants to see less of the divisive right wing extremist stickers on vehicles, their best bet is to stick to college towns (more educated) and most of South Florida (a mix of educated and cosmopolitan).

Captain obvious statement, but avoid, rural, blue collar, and economically depressed areas...I've seen some "The Hills have eyes" type stuff in Central Florida near Howie-in-the Hills, Groveland areas.

Originally Posted by sinatras

South Florida?

I own a multi-million dollar home in Pinecrest (inheritance). Not the most affluent neighborhood in So Fla obv but certainly affluent.

https://www.zillow.com/pinecrest-fl/

Absolutely minimal black presence there also (as is the case in 99% of affluent areas of Miami Dade).

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by silverct9a

I mostly agree with you but that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

To clarify, I was saying that if one wants to see less of the divisive right wing extremist stickers on vehicles, their best bet is to stick to college towns (more educated) and most of South Florida (a mix of educated and cosmopolitan).

Captain obvious statement, but avoid, rural, blue collar, and economically depressed areas...I've seen some "The Hills have eyes" type stuff in Central Florida near Howie-in-the Hills, Groveland areas.

I am going to have to disagree with you here. The ubiquitous Cubans and South Americans in South Florida are just as extremist as the Howie-in-the-Hills types, except some of their stickers and flags are in spanish! The South Florida Cubans are specially infamous for being racist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ity-shows-how/


I was in Miami Dade for Thanksgiving and must have seen at least 3 cars with "Vamos Brandon" and "Cuban Lives Matter" bumper stickers

[silverct9a]

I live down here…I didn’t need an article to agree with you, but for every one foolish Latino sticker, you’ll see four right wing extremist stickers. Also, those dumb Latino stickers are pretty much geographically limited to South, maybe Central Florida - Right wing extremism is nationwide.

Not even remotely the same…

Originally Posted by sinatras

I am going to have to disagree with you here. The ubiquitous Cubans and South Americans in South Florida are just as extremist as the Howie-in-the-Hills types, except some of their stickers and flags are in spanish! The South Florida Cubans are specially infamous for being racist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ity-shows-how/


I was in Miami Dade for Thanksgiving and must have seen at least 3 cars with "Vamos Brandon" and "Cuban Lives Matter" bumper stickers