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Old 05-03-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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We need the pattern we had 1990-2002 back. '90, '91', 98', and 99' were all in the Top 10 warmest years on record. '01 and '02 were 12th and 13th warmest on record. Jesus. If we had that pattern happen today it would be like playing 2012 on repeat


Also it's shocking how cold 2014 was, especially in the current day and age with the urban heat island and the climate change. If we had that pattern last century I guarantee you 2014 would've been like the coldest year on record
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Old 05-03-2016, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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A 2010 or 2012 summer would be fine by me, or any summer from the mid-2000s
I'd love to experience another summer like 2013. More cloud-to-ground lightning events than all the time since combined, and 3rd highest precipitation on record for the JJA period.
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Old 05-03-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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Oh you mean summers when the PNW didn't have that warm water offshore? Forget about it. That water is not cooling off for years. Sound like a broken record cause I'm sick of seeing it and their stupidly constant positive temp anomalies out there month after month for the last few years. And if we are now back into the next 30 year warm PDO, ugh, not like 2012 for decades.

Why do you keep pushing this? The PDO was positive throughout the 1980s, and in 1988, which had a positive PDO (May-Aug 1.20, 0.74, 0.64, 0.19) saw the worst heatwave and drought since the Dust Bowl

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Old 05-03-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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I'd love to experience another summer like 2013. More cloud-to-ground lightning events than all the time since combined, and 3rd highest precipitation on record for the JJA period.
2013 was a mixed bag here. June and July were sweltering and humid while August was cool and it was essentially a canary in the coalmine of the cold epoch that was about to follow

Hopefully this past April and May are just a blip on the radar as opposed to a return to the November 2013-August 2015 pattern
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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Here Tom, look precip anomalies/drought severity during the 1980s when there was a positive PDO for the Midwest (upper and lower) during the summer months.





and average temps during that time. Slightly positive trend yes?

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Old 05-03-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Me too. Ugh. Is this from a stationary front or something else?



Your temperatures have been milder. Yesterday stayed under 50°F most of the day

Still rather cool for May here. April 30th 64/47F, May 1st 54/47 (very cool for May) and yesterday 65/48F.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Here Tom, look precip anomalies/drought severity during the 1980s when there was a positive PDO for the Midwest (upper and lower) during the summer months.





and average temps during that time. Slightly positive trend yes?

Did you watch the Bastardi video where he talks about what that warm water off the PNW does? Why can't you get it that a ridge over Seattle like 90% of the time means trough over us. What the heck do you think caused a high of 54F here on Sunday and a high in the upper 80'sF in Seattle. Just look at the latest Euro weekly forecast. Tell me why everyone else in the US gets some negative anomalies then positive but one and only one single region just constantly stays positive or right at avg day after day after day. They just cannot get a negative anomaly out there to save their lives. Am so sick of it.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Did you watch the Bastardi video where he talks about what that warm water off the PNW does? Why can't you get it that a ridge over Seattle like 90% of the time means trough over us. What the heck do you think caused a high of 54F here on Sunday and a high in the upper 80'sF in Seattle. Just look at the latest Euro weekly forecast. Tell me why everyone else in the US gets some negative anomalies then positive but one and only one single region just constantly stays positive or right at avg day after day after day. They just cannot get a negative anomaly out there to save their lives. Am so sick of it.
Amen, as long as Seattle is hot it's not hot here. Notice how during this mild winter Seattle had much lower anomalies than usual compared to the past few years, even negative a couple of months, which was their first negative anomaly since way back in August of 2013. Coincidence? I think not!
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Me too. Ugh. Is this from a stationary front or something else?

Simplified in 2 words.


Climate Change.


Just kidding.


Global Warming.


Just kidding.


Trump Wall.


Just kidding.


Rotating Storms. There. 2 words.


Slightly longer version.


Basically its been storm after storm rotating around the base of the trough. More like short waves then organized storms. Low Level moisture is persistent so even though High Pressure trying to fight its way in, low level clouds remain. There's actually a Southwesterly flow going on aloft. Now a Cut off low in the Ohio Valley is swinging around so the clouds will continue. crazy right? One would think nothing is moving but it's simply just rotating around and around and new features showing up in the region.

You should really make it a habit to play at least the NAM surface or 500mb loops to see what's going on and whats coming up. You of most people here would love it and appreciate it and answer a lot of questions you have.


Or the Water Vapor loops.


Overcast Day #3. Absolutely annoying drizzle radar hasn't picked up, mounted to 0.48" so far today. Temps haven't passed 52°! Foggy, dreary, wet and dark.


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Old 05-03-2016, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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Do you see how excessively wet it was? Yet summer was above average. Just not too many upper 90's temps
Amazing. That wet and still above average is the holy grail of summer months for me.
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