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Old 11-16-2014, 07:35 AM
 
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But its not below average.
What on earth are you saying? Who's averages are you talking about? Yours? Or mine? Are you even familiar with our averages?


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You know I looked at those averages and that isn't actually that cold. There was only 2 ice days.. .
2011-2012 was the 9th warmest winter on record here

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/?n=CHI_winter_temps



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How is that horribly cold?? Its not rare to have that in the UK

B87 was comparing that winter to what he experiences in London. So to him, it's well below average, by like 3-5C.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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Well they keep saying to me that your mild winters are cold and i'm telling them that its not because its well above average and wouldn't look out of place here. (Maybe December 2012 was even warmer)

In winter 2010 we has something like 18 ice days, well thats more than you had winter 2012.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:43 AM
 
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Well they keep saying to me that your mild winters are cold and i'm telling them that its not because its well above average and wouldn't look out of place here. (Maybe December 2012 was even warmer)

In winter 2010 we has something like 18 ice days, well thats more than you had winter 2012.
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What on earth are you saying? Who's averages are you talking about? Yours? Or mine? Are you even familiar with our averages?




2011-2012 was the 9th warmest winter on record here

Chicago Seasonal Winter Temperature Ranking






B87 was comparing that winter to what he experiences in London. So to him, it's well below average, by like 3-5C.
Well a high of 14c is above my record. Its not terribly cold, he seems to think London is tropical.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:45 AM
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i dont think my winter 2011-2012 would have felt cold to someone from britain. the mornings would have though, the lows averaged colder than anything typical for the uk. the biggest difference would have been the sunshine.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:47 AM
 
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Well they keep saying to me that your mild winters are cold and i'm telling them that its not because its well above average and wouldn't look out of place here. (Maybe December 2012 was even warmer)

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In winter 2010 we has something like 18 ice days, well thats more than you had winter 2012.
I'm not at all familiar with he average temps for winter in your location. However, I am for London. Our warmest winters would feel like the coldest they get there.

Warmest December here 1877 Mean temp of 6.3C (lakeshore station)
Warmest January here 1880 Mean 4.3C (lakeshore station)
Warmest February here 1998 Mean 4.3C (MDW with an avg high 7.4C)



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Well a high of 14c is above my record. Its not terribly cold, he seems to think London is tropical.
Yes we can get temperature spikes higher than London record highs in the winter, but those here are rare. Jan 2008 we had a high of 18C but the month's average high was 0.3C
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:50 AM
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i think summerwhale is looking at afternoon highs only, wher the chicago-uk difference is smaller. the mean factors in night temperatures
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:50 AM
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Well a high of 14c is above my record. Its not terribly cold, he seems to think London is tropical.
No I don't, but it gets 14C every winter and sometimes 16-18C in February. I was talking about Chicago's weather from my point of view, which I clearly stated, and not from NI (thankfully).

Here's London from Nov 2011 to Mar 2012.

Nov: 13.3/8.0
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)

Dec: 9.4/4.5
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)

Jan: 9.5/4.2
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)

Feb: 7.9/2.1
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)

Mar: 14.7/5.1
Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)



This is our coldest December on record
http://www.meteociel.fr/climatologie...=12&annee=2010

Some warm winter months
http://www.meteociel.fr/climatologie...=12&annee=1974
http://www.meteociel.fr/climatologie...s=1&annee=2007
http://www.meteociel.fr/climatologie...s=2&annee=1990

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Old 11-16-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Do you know when was the last time it reached 16C or 18C in London in February?

Here is our official February records



We hit 21C in 1999, 22C in 2000, and the absolute record max was 24C in 1976
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:05 AM
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Do you know when was the last time it reached 16C or 18C in London in February?
Feb 2004 and 2012 both had temps over 16C
Feb 1990 and 1998 both saw 18C

It reached 15C in Feb 2008 and 2009, and 14.9C this year.

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Old 11-16-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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I'm not at all familiar with he average temps for winter in your location. However, I am for London. Our warmest winters would feel like the coldest they get there.

Warmest December here 1877 Mean temp of 6.3C (lakeshore station)
Warmest January here 1880 Mean 4.3C (lakeshore station)
Warmest February here 1998 Mean 4.3C (MDW with an avg high 7.4C)





Yes we can get temperature spikes higher than London record highs in the winter, but those here are rare. Jan 2008 we had a high of 18C but the month's average high was 0.3C
Well its 2c colder here so your winter is not cold here. Infact that was quite mild.

A cold winter here would be:


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