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[quote=UrbanScholar;31919781]Recording of Penn National presentation
http://pdvod.new.livestream.com/even...53b712b81610c2 [/QUOTE
I got a chance to check this out when I was getting ready for bed. The one thing that stood out is that they did address the roads coming into the facility. They also stated that all costs would come from private dollars. They also seemed to have a great concert/event space and a good number of restaurants (albeit house brands). The problem that I saw with their road improvementmplan was right of way acquisition. They haven't started acquiring the land and negotiating purchase cost could eat a year oout of their schedule .....easy. The other issue is that they didn't meet with the county to get early buy in on their road improvements. They also didn't discuss how they would work to improve public transportation and emergency vehicle access to the site.. I also don't think the committee bought into the profit share idea once they explained it more. they didn't mention any retail options which wouldn't be a biggie given the type of vibe that they want to establish. It also seemed that their target is more local/regional and that Perryville (as a result of their split) would have little perks if they were given a new license.
10-23-2013, 09:05 AM
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Recording of Penn National presentation
http://pdvod.new.livestream.com/even...53b712b81610c2 [/QUOTE
I got a chance to check this out when I was getting ready for bed. The one thing that stood out is that they did address the roads coming into the facility. They also stated that all costs would come from private dollars. They also seemed to have a great concert/event space and a good number of restaurants (albeit house brands). The problem that I saw with their road improvementmplan was right of way acquisition. They haven't started acquiring the land and negotiating purchase cost could eat a year oout of their schedule .....easy. The other issue is that they didn't meet with the county to get early buy in on their road improvements. They also didn't discuss how they would work to improve public transportation and emergency vehicle access to the site.. I also don't think the committee bought into the profit share idea once they explained it more. they didn't mention any retail options which wouldn't be a biggie given the type of vibe that they want to establish. It also seemed that their target is more local/regional and that Perryville (as a result of their split) would have little perks if they were given a new license.
Link doesn't work. Try this one?
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/5...onal&cat=event
The Hollywood brand is the type of casino that neighborhoods complain about. It's a slots parlor. Sure it has a hotel and restaurants. But they offer nothing that says, "Hey, we're a destination first and a casino second." Like you said, its target is local. Forget regional. Maryland Live is regional because of the outlet mall. Why would people go to ANOTHER Hollywood brand casino in the sticks when they have Maryland Live and soon a Horseshoe by Ceasars in Baltimore?
10-23-2013, 09:44 AM
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More people in favor of the National Harbor location.
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The unions that represent construction and labor workers in Prince George's County are throwing their support behind a plan by MGM to build a casino at National Harbor.
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Unions Back MGM Plan For Casino | Baltimore News | WBAL Radio 1090 AM
10-23-2013, 11:06 AM
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Link doesn't work. Try this one?
Casino Public Forum for Prince George
The Hollywood brand is the type of casino that neighborhoods complain about. It's a slots parlor. Sure it has a hotel and restaurants. But they offer nothing that says, "Hey, we're a destination first and a casino second." Like you said, its target is local. Forget regional. Maryland Live is regional because of the outlet mall. Why would people go to ANOTHER Hollywood brand casino in the sticks when they have Maryland Live and soon a Horseshoe by Ceasars in Baltimore?
Thanks for correcting the link.....yeah I agree, at the end of the day they are middle of the road when it comes down to it. Most people wouldn't especially if there are no other amenities.
10-23-2013, 01:17 PM
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After watching the top video, it sounds like they are more about saving the horse racing industry than building a casino. Personally, I don't think the horse racing industry will suffer if a casino is not built there. People that love horse racing won't all of a sudden stop going because of a casino at National Harbor. There's a market for everything. There will always be a market for horse racing. Slots and a hotel would act more like a marketing tool for horse racing than anything as it would draw more people to the actual race track. Then they can say, "Oh by the way, have you tried horse racing? Look here."
Why not have the best of both worlds? Have a premier resort with a casino on the banks of the Potomac river in addition to a horse racing at Rosecroft. And if Penn National was smart, there could be a partnership with MGM to highlight Maryland's horse racing industry and history. I don't think MGM would feel threatened by horse racing. Especially not Rosecroft.
ANd you talk about putting all your hopes in one basket, why do they talk as if a Hollywood Casino would be the savior of horse racing? Has it worked in Charlestown? I don't know.
10-23-2013, 01:52 PM
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After watching the top video, it sounds like they are more about saving the horse racing industry than building a casino. Personally, I don't think the horse racing industry will suffer if a casino is not built there. People that love horse racing won't all of a sudden stop going because of a casino at National Harbor. There's a market for everything. There will always be a market for horse racing. Slots and a hotel would act more like a marketing tool for horse racing than anything as it would draw more people to the actual race track. Then they can say, "Oh by the way, have you tried horse racing? Look here."
I agree it wont kill the industry in MD. A partnership with MGM would be the best way to go. Along with performing the upgrades to Rosecroft to enhance their look and Appeal. They could also add a cadre of non-gaming ameneties, restaurants and retail to pull a younger audience( similar to powerplant live). I think that would better than what they are proposing.
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Yeah missed it. Have to wait for the recording to be posted. What did you think of their presentation
10-23-2013, 05:16 PM
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Yeah missed it. Have to wait for the recording to be posted. What did you think of their presentation
Their video presentation was kind cheesy. I mean it was to the song, "Wake Up Everybody." By Teddy Pendergrass. Very tacky. Really Parx? About 3 minutes of the video were of the outside shots. The inside was represented by rough sketching.
I thought it was interesting that they, along with Penn National, seemed to think that somehow they were miles away from residential areas and that their location was better than National Harbor. And even showed the photo indicating how far away MGM would be from the core of National Harbor. Really? He coyly asked, "How are visitors from National Harbor going to get to the MGM site - walk?" No smartass, they'll get there the same way they'd have to get to your secluded casino. At least the ride to MGM would be 5 minutes and not 15.
On one hand, they made it sound as if being away from the core of National Harbor was somehow a drawback, but then touted just how secluded their site was from everything else with minimal traffic impact.
They talked about road improvements on Indian Head Highway and how they would bring development to the aging shopping center to the north. They would have the most slots in the state with 4000+. Restaurants, bars, etc.
PS. It seemed that most of the public speakers after the presentation opposed the Parx location and supported the MGM location. Friday should be interesting.
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I'd like to see MGM offer to cover a certain percentage of the costs for a metro line. There investment in a metro line would be a wash as far as long term profits since it would significantly increase their traffic.
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People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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