10-21-2013, 02:03 PM
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What high roller would go to that dump? They should have put more effort into making the casino not look like Hollywood Casino in Charlestown. I don't see people flying from other countries to visit Hollywood Casino. Just don't see it. They'd probably prefer Maryland Live instead. Expand a little by adding a resort option. Try not to look so pedestrian. It would be nice to see the profit forecast from the other casinos.
True, for 700M their design is pretty mediocre. The point that I found interesting was that they made no mention of what investments they would make to road and transportation infrastructure. That would be critical for that location. Same goes for the Parx location. I am interested in hearing the totality of the proposals too but the only one that I will be able to attend is MGM on Friday. I will have to read the papers for a summary of the others. Would be great if they had a webcast.
10-21-2013, 02:18 PM
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Would be great if they had a webcast.
What a novel idea! Hopefully someone is recording it and it will be on a county or state website? In this age of IT, it shouldn't be that difficult to do. The record other county and state proceedings. Also, can they change their proposal after the submission deadline? I'm not sure how can be admitted. It wouldn't be fair to the other bidders.
10-21-2013, 03:28 PM
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What a novel idea! Hopefully someone is recording it and it will be on a county or state website? In this age of IT, it shouldn't be that difficult to do. The record other county and state proceedings. Also, can they change their proposal after the submission deadline? I'm not sure how can be admitted. It wouldn't be fair to the other bidders.
If so I haven't been able to find where it is....no big deal though. Will get the cliff notes from the paper.
They can submit amendments up to the public hearings. For example, PNG changed the number of slots a few weeks ago to 3000. They submitted the additional fees but I didn't think it was fair to the other bidders. On another note, I just found out that Greenwood is collaborating with Cordish for a casino in Philly. That explains how they came into the picture out of nowhere but it makes me wonder if their motives are to be in the process to delay for Cordish when they don't get it. Just a thought
10-21-2013, 03:51 PM
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Update it can be watched on the county's website. Still looking for the link
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Watched tonight's hearing and wow....so many Nimbys and horse racing professionals. That's not surprising although more than half were rambling with no factual basis for their support of Rosecroft. One common theme was that without the casino, the MD horse racing industry will parish. I stand by my previous position that an industry should be able to stand on its own. If it can't then maybe it needs to fail. Anyway round two on Wedneday.
10-21-2013, 08:25 PM
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Watched tonight's hearing and wow....so many Nimbys and horse racing professionals. That's not surprising although more than half were rambling with no factual basis for their support of Rosecroft. One common theme was that without the casino, the MD horse racing industry will parish. I stand by my previous position that an industry should be able to stand on its own. If it can't then maybe it needs to fail. Anyway round two on Wedneday.
Thanks for the update. I read an article where residents were throwing their support for the Rosecroft location because the National Harbor location would be too close to residential neighborhoods. Which is interesting because the Penn National casino and racetrack traffic would pour through the neighborhoods anyway. At least MGM is on the periphery and surround by the river, 495, and other commercial properties. I'm puzzled by their strategy. Rosecroft is surrounded by residential plats.
Huh?
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Forest Heights Mayor Jacquline Goodall applauded the company's financial commitment to the hospital and the teachers' retirement fund. She said the location at the racetrack seemed the most appropriate for a casino and would have the least impact of all the proposals on area traffic.No houses would be impacted . For me, it's a no-brainer."
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State Del. Veronica Turner, who represents the 26th District, which includes the proposed casino sites, said she's gotten a lot of emails from constituents opposing both Penn National's and Greenwood Racing's sites, citing concerns about raffic and the presence of a casino near residential neighborhoods.
Seems like a few people are confused about where homes are. Google maps is your friend.
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10-21-2013, 11:47 PM
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Thanks for the update. I read an article where residents were throwing their support for the Rosecroft location because the National Harbor location would be too close to residential neighborhoods. Which is interesting because the Penn National casino and racetrack traffic would pour through the neighborhoods anyway. At least MGM is on the periphery and surround by the river, 495, and other commercial properties. I'm puzzled by their strategy. Rosecroft is surrounded by residential plats.
Huh?
And then...
Seems like a few people are confused about where homes are. Google maps is your friend.
Lmao yeah I was thinking the same thing.......also The crossroad to Rosecroft is two lanes. If they widen that road (which they should), that will not only impact the homes on that road but will also require public investment for roads as well as increased public transportation.
10-22-2013, 05:58 AM
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Thanks for the update. I read an article where residents were throwing their support for the Rosecroft location because the National Harbor location would be too close to residential neighborhoods. Which is interesting because the Penn National casino and racetrack traffic would pour through the neighborhoods anyway. At least MGM is on the periphery and surround by the river, 495, and other commercial properties. I'm puzzled by their strategy. Rosecroft is surrounded by residential plats.
Huh?
And then...
Seems like a few people are confused about where homes are. Google maps is your friend.
I could be wrong but I think some of those quotes are being taken out of context. As far as the first one, if you read that literal than yes no houses will be impacted but for people who live off of Oxon Hill Road traffic will be heavier and there is likely to be more foot traffic. I can understand their concern. I have family that live off of Oxon Hill Road at that point and it's tough for them already to get out on the main road. Their house may not be directly impacted but their quality of life living there will be.
I am not sure what they mean by the second quote. The two are a lot different. Perhaps there is a bit of nimbyism going on but I personally can't blame people for not wanting a casino near their home. Neither location is in a remote location so there is bound to be some nimbyism.
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I could be wrong but I think some of those quotes are being taken out of context. As far as the first one, if you read that literal than yes no houses will be impacted but for people who live off of Oxon Hill Road traffic will be heavier and there is likely to be more foot traffic. I can understand their concern. I have family that live off of Oxon Hill Road at that point and it's tough for them already to get out on the main road. Their house may not be directly impacted but their quality of life living there will be.
Based on her responses during the hearing she meant it literally. I dismissed as NIMBYism. What I found interesting is that her town passed a law against the casino being at the harbor. I know it was a symbolic protest but don't understand but in today's environment. Although I understand their concern a lot of that traffic comes from people commuting and not from traffic related to the harbor activities. At least that's been my experience..
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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