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Can be but as others have pointed out on this thread, can also can be due to other medical problems (and poor hygiene). There is also conflicting evidence on prior sexual abuse. It's difficult to hard to separate fact from fiction in this case; one can find evidence for almost everything that did or did not happen to this unfortunate child.
I do. Ear infections galore (daycare), re-checks on the antibiotics for that, chicken pox, childhood allergies, broken arms from soccer and rollerskating, immunizations, etc. I felt like I lived there, and so did most of my friends of kids ages 1-6.
Poor hygiene? What child at 4, 5 or 6 has adaquate hygiene? They're kids, they just do what all other kids do, yet very few, if any children, see a doctor 30 + times. If in a 3 year time, that's 10/year or once every 6 weeks. Wow, what child sees a doc that much unless you've got some big time medical problem going on. That is not a normal routine for any child.
You brought your kids to a doctor every 6 weeks and all of your friends brought their kids too that frequently?
Poor hygiene? What child at 4, 5 or 6 has adaquate hygiene?
"While a coroner's report found JonBenet had been sexually assaulted before she was killed, "experts" have differed widely as to whether the evidence supports previous or chronic abuse. The coroner's report found "chronic inflammation and epithelial erosion" in the girl's vagina, leading Dr. Cyril Wecht, coroner of Allegheny County, Pa., to conclude that there was abuse at least two days before her death. But others say anyone who hasn't examined the actual tissue couldn't reach a reliable conclusion. "Poor hygiene can cause chronic inflammation," Dr. Joan Slook, a pediatrician with the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, told the Daily Camera. "Some little girls can have asymptomatic bladder infections that can cause irritation in the vagina."
Boulder Daily Camera archive, 1997.
I wouldn't put myself in the Ramsey supporter camp;I have no idea who killed JonBenet. As has been posted somewhere in this thread, 30 visits spread over that time period came to about once every six weeks. I don't think that frequency is that unusual for kids through the age of six, at least not from what I recall of my own kids' visits to their pediatrician. From what I've read, JB had a lot of bladder infections, which apparently can be a result of a little girl's poor hygiene.
You're right, theres many reasons for chronic urinary track and yeast infections. In a 4-6 yr old, I don't know that its common. Body chemistry, soaps and bubble baths, poor hygiene and sex, in this case sexual abuse. In the monthly visits, its odd the problem wasn't indentified and corrected. Her autopsy showed no signs of disease in her bladder or kidneys or elsewhere. There was something about the thyroid, which may have been from the garrote.
Just the 3 things listed below don't pass the sniff test.
For what reason would 2 neighbors lie about the screams they heard after midnight.... the Ramseys heard nothing?
Why did Patsy lie about Burke sleeping thru the 911 call?
Do you really believe JonBenet sat with an intruder she didn't know and ate pineapple?
O'...heres one more...John removed the duck tape from JonBenets mouth and left it in the basement. According to reports and Patsys transcripts, at no time during the investigation did she enter the basement or handle the duck tape, yet fibers from her red jacket were on the sticky side of the tape. Tell me that isn't strange
The pubic hair investigators found on the white blanket, not a word about the DNA results.
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"While a coroner's report found JonBenet had been sexually assaulted before she was killed, "experts" have differed widely as to whether the evidence supports previous or chronic abuse. The coroner's report found "chronic inflammation and epithelial erosion" in the girl's vagina, leading Dr. Cyril Wecht, coroner of Allegheny County, Pa., to conclude that there was abuse at least two days before her death. But others say anyone who hasn't examined the actual tissue couldn't reach a reliable conclusion. "Poor hygiene can cause chronic inflammation," Dr. Joan Slook, a pediatrician with the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, told the Daily Camera. "Some little girls can have asymptomatic bladder infections that can cause irritation in the vagina."
Boulder Daily Camera archive, 1997.
Well, if Patsy claimed to be the wonderful mother she was, why didn't she know her daughter had a problem? Inflammation causes pain or symptoms in the majority of cases. "Asymptomatic"--how would Dr. Slook know that? Did she question the child? Did she ask the parents about it specifically? And, why repeated doctor visits with no resolution? What competent doctor would miss it with all of the exams performed? And, how does the bedwetting fit in here? Coincidental, too?
For what reason would 2 neighbors lie about the screams they heard after midnight.... the Ramseys heard nothing?
True, and then those neighbors were later silenced.
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Do you really believe JonBenet sat with an intruder she didn't know and ate pineapple?
No...but there is so much conflicting evidence. I just looked up something about a possible osteopath (that Sandhillian mentioned) whom JB might have seen revealed nothing except a couple of links that contradicted each other about the pineapple (one that stated it was fresh fruit and the other that said JB could not have opened a can of pineapple without help).
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if Patsy claimed to be the wonderful mother she was, why didn't she know her daughter had a problem? Inflammation causes pain or symptoms in the majority of cases. "Asymptomatic"--how would Dr. Slook know that?
True, with so many conflicting statements about the state of her health.
What amazes me about this case, is the amount of cover up, and the silence. I believe this case could be solved, if people who know the truth spoke up. This was not random violence.
The police botched this from the beginning. No matter about a ransom note, the house should have been searched by police for clues. The scene should have been secured. That is why this case is such a mess. No excuse. That is where the blame for this case not being solved, it was completely mishandled by the police from minute one.
I don't blame the officers too much though, they were manipulated by a sociopath, much smarter than them, more status. I can see how it happened. I believe the Ramsey's took control of this from the beginning, with the goal of divert and confuse. Masterfully done.
What amazes me about this case, is the amount of cover up, and the silence. I believe this case could be solved, if people who know the truth spoke up. This was not random violence.
The police botched this from the beginning. No matter about a ransom note, the house should have been searched by police for clues. The scene should have been secured. That is why this case is such a mess. No excuse. That is where the blame for this case not being solved, it was completely mishandled by the police from minute one.
I don't blame the officers too much though, they were manipulated by a sociopath, much smarter than them, more status. I can see how it happened. I believe the Ramsey's took control of this from the beginning, with the goal of divert and confuse. Masterfully done.
They were intimidated by the Ramsey's wealth, status and connections.
I think Detective James Kolar has presented factual events that were covered up in his new book.
Again, the possible culprit cannot be prosecuted, because of Colorado statutes.
Facts are coming out, whether or not John Ramsey's spin team likes this or not. I think the media blitz of dis-information on the part of former D.A.'s (esp. Lacy) is a disgrace and reflects poorly on the system, and her superiors who dropped the ball in the name of career advancement.
Here's another good book to read: detective Steve Thomas is clearly on the side of the truth, and cares about justice for JBR. (the little girl who was killed, lest we forget). He simply doesn't mention the Kolar revelations, which we now know.
Steve Thomas received more than a hundred commendations and awards during his thirteen-year police career, including the Award of Excellence and the Medal for Lifesaving, for assignments ranging from recruit training and SWAT to special investigations and undercover narcotics. Prior to the JonBenet case, Thomas worked on a multi-state task force investigating racketeering and organized crime that resulted in numerous grand-jury indictments. Thomas has been a guest lecturer on criminal justice topics and instructed extensively on law-enforcement issues.
University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter (by former DA Mary Lacy exonerating Ramseys) a 'reckless exoneration.'
He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
~~Quote from Kolar's book:Foreign Faction: Who Really Kidnapped Jonbenet Ramsey
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What amazes me about this case, is the amount of cover up, and the silence. I believe this case could be solved, if people who know the truth spoke up. This was not random violence.
The police botched this from the beginning. No matter about a ransom note, the house should have been searched by police for clues. The scene should have been secured. That is why this case is such a mess. No excuse. That is where the blame for this case not being solved, it was completely mishandled by the police from minute one.
I don't blame the officers too much though, they were manipulated by a sociopath, much smarter than them, more status. I can see how it happened. I believe the Ramsey's took control of this from the beginning, with the goal of divert and confuse. Masterfully done.
Yes, there are coverups, police screwups, sometimes deliberate misinformation, and media mistakes. Look at that Colorado killer, when the media initially said, when the mother of the killer was first contacted about her son being caught, said something like 'you have the right person'. I heard no media retraction of that blunder.
The truth is, sometimes we can pick and choose the evidence that fits our favorite scenario, which makes for good beach reading.
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