Better skyline Houston or Dallas? (Fort Worth, Wells: commute, freeway, amount)

[portyhead24]

Honestly though I dont' think Houston's skyline sucks, but y'all keep making it out like Houston's downtown dominates. Is it larger, yeah, but not extremely so. I do stand by Dallas' skyline being more appealing though. Houston's is more bland but both skyline's are pretty interchangeable. Discounting natural surroundings, you could interchange Houston with Dallas with Los Angeles with Seattle etc. They're just not really THAT amazing. Chicago has a great skyline. New York has a great skyline. Hong Kong has a great skyline. Houston and Dallas are just nice.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by portyhead24

Honestly though I dont' think Houston's skyline sucks, but y'all keep making it out like Houston's downtown dominates. Is it larger, yeah, but not extremely so. I do stand by Dallas' skyline being more appealing though. Houston's is more bland but both skyline's are pretty interchangeable. Discounting natural surroundings, you could interchange Houston with Dallas with Los Angeles with Seattle etc. They're just not really THAT amazing. Chicago has a great skyline. New York has a great skyline. Hong Kong has a great skyline. Houston and Dallas are just nice.

For a normal person, maybe. It does dominate lol.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by portyhead24

We keep having this argument because Houston's downtown skyline sucks. Dallas is prettier, glitzier, more appealing to the eyes and overall more varied and unique looking. Get over it. Dallas is better, period.

Downtown Houston is easily twice the size of Downtown Dallas.

Uptown Houston's skyline alone rivals Downtown Dallas.

I always get a giant smile on my face whenever I bring a newbie to Houston & they ask me if uptown is downtown then I show them the real downtown & their jaw drops to the floorboard.

[annie_himself]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

I always get a giant smile on my face whenever I bring a newbie to Houston & they ask me if uptown is downtown then I show them the real downtown & their jaw drops to the floorboard.

Or TMC.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by annie_himself

Or TMC.

To be fair, TMC is more comparable to Uptown Dallas in size & density.

Greenway Plaza could hang with Downtown Fort Worth.

Greenspoint with Las Colinas.

Westchase with Addison/Dallas Galleria.

Houston's Energy Corridor with the Telecom Corridor in Richardson.

I don't know of any D/FW skylines that could compete with Galveston, Clear Lake/Kemah, or The Woodlands.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by portyhead24

Honestly though I dont' think Houston's skyline sucks, but y'all keep making it out like Houston's downtown dominates. Is it larger, yeah, but not extremely so.

In all aspects Houston dominates DT Dallas. It is larger in land area, it has more buildings, the buildings are larger, and there is more lease-able space

# of buildings:
DT Houston- 218
TMC -162
DT Dallas-115

Sq feet:
DTH- 55,285,545
DTD- 36,814,169 (with Downtown Fort Worth, 26M w/o)
UTH- 35,139,286
TMC- 33,800,000 HVS - HVS Market Intelligence Report: Houston Hotels in 2012
Energy Corridor- 30,583,045

Vacancy rate
DTH 10%
DTD 25.6%

Texas Market Reports -- Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

To be fair, TMC is more comparable to Uptown Dallas in size & density.

Greenway Plaza could hang with Downtown Fort Worth.

Greenspoint with Las Colinas.

Westchase with Addison/Dallas Galleria.

Houston's Energy Corridor with the Telecom Corridor in Richardson.

I don't know of any D/FW skylines that could compete with Galveston, Clear Lake/Kemah, or The Woodlands.

Actually TMC is a lot more dense than DTD, UTD or DTH for that matter.
TMC has actually more building space than DTD as in figures they combine DTD and DTFW for some reason.

TMC- 162 Buildings 33M sq ft
UTD- 96 buildings and 11M sq ft

Greenway Plaza has more buildings than DTFW and more leaseable Space
GW- 99 buildings, 12M sq ft
FW - 77 BUILDINGS, 10m SQ FT

Greenspoint- 120 buildings, 12M sq ft
Las Colinas- 56 buildings 9M sq ft

Energy Corridor- 282 Buildings, 30M sq feet (EC, TMC, DTH and UT all have more Space than DTD)
Telecom Corridor- 155, 15M sq feet.

The Energy Corridor is twice as larger as the Richardson area and is more comparable to the North Dallas Tollway area. Greenway Plaza is more comparable to Uptown Dallas in terms of number of buildings and lease able space.

Nothing in DFW matches DTH. In fact DTD combined with uptown Dallas still has less buildings and sq feet than Downtown Houston.

Nothing in DFW matches TMC
Nothing in DFW matches Uptown Houston in terms of number of buildings and Rentable space

[portyhead24]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

In all aspects Houston dominates DT Dallas. It is larger in land area, it has more buildings, the buildings are larger, and there is more lease-able space

And even with all those buildings the Dallas skyline is still more aesthetically appealing. Quality not quantity.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by portyhead24

And even with all those buildings the Dallas skyline is still more aesthetically appealing. Quality not quantity.

pleasing to your eye.

Outside Dallas few people mention DTD. Houston is often mentioned.

[Brian.Pearson]

Last time I was in Houston with a couple of other guys. I was driving 70 mph on the freeway in bumper to bumper traffic. Buddies were acting as navigators, telling me when to swerve off the freeway. I would never want to see that kind of traffic, again. Jus' sayin'. But maybe they have fixed the traffic problem, I don't know.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

pleasing to your eye.

Outside Dallas few people mention DTD. Houston is often mentioned.

How do you know....you are not everywhere at all times.