12-14-2013, 06:20 PM
Location: NE Atlanta Metro
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I've got to be honest, and I know I'm going to get hated on for saying this, but that was very underwhelming. Admittedly my favorite part of the design is the bottom of the deck, which hardly anyone ever sees. I love Calatravas work but I'm glad Houston didn't shell out almost 200 million for an 1,800' long bridge that's used by only 20,000 vehicles a day.
Houston has a similar "signature" bridge (the Fred Hartman ship channel bridge), but it's over two and a half miles long, was over 65 million dollars cheaper to construct, has over 50,000 vehicles cross if a day (that number will grow when the grand parkway is complete), is an innovative design (and the longest span like it in the state), and has pylons that are 36' taller than the 400' arch on the Margaret hunt hill bridge. I bet you guys didn't realize Houston not only takes the cake with tallest buildings, but also tallest bridge.
Hartman Bridge is not
in Houston. That would be Baytown and La Porte.
Houston doesn't have a signature bridge.
12-14-2013, 06:25 PM
Location: The Mid-Cities
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I've got to be honest, and I know I'm going to get hated on for saying this, but that was very underwhelming. Admittedly my favorite part of the design is the bottom of the deck, which hardly anyone ever sees. I love Calatravas work but I'm glad Houston didn't shell out almost 200 million for an 1,800' long bridge that's used by only 20,000 vehicles a day. Houston has a similar "signature" bridge (the Fred Hartman ship channel bridge), but it's over two and a half miles long, was over 65 million dollars cheaper to construct, has over 50,000 vehicles cross if a day (that number will grow when the grand parkway is complete), is an innovative design (and the longest span like it in the state), and has pylons that are 36' taller than the 400' arch on the Margaret hunt hill bridge.
I bet you guys didn't realize Houston not only takes the cake with tallest buildings, but also tallest bridge.
That's the thing though, Dallasites aren't hating on any Houston bridge and quite frankly they could care less. I say this because although I'm aware of of the Hartman bridge, I'm pretty sure most Dallasite's don't pay much attention to Houston area bridges.
12-14-2013, 06:37 PM
Location: The Bayou City
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Hartman Bridge is not in Houston. That would be Baytown and La Porte.
smhhh.. when i said Houston i meant H-O-U-S-T-O-N... just as when most of you say Dallas your actually referring to DFW.
btw, Houston (the city) doesnt have signature bridges?
they will look even nicer when the new LED lighting is installed on the arches.
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That's the thing though, Dallasites aren't hating on any Houston bridge and quite frankly they could care less. I say this because although I'm aware of of the Hartman bridge, I'm pretty sure most Dallasite's don't pay much attention to Houston area bridges.
of course they arent. there is nothing to hate on about the Houston bridge. it was built at a reasonable cost, is unique, and we never hyped it up like its the best thing since sliced bread. i can guarentee you if there were half as many press releases and publicity surrounding the Houston bridge when it first opened as their were the Dallas bridge, plenty of Dallasites would of raised an eyebrow or two.
12-14-2013, 06:44 PM
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smhhh.. when i said Houston i meant H-O-U-S-T-O-N... just as when most of you say Dallas your actually referring to DFW.
The only people that are giving the Margaret Hunt Hill Bridge any publicity are Houston homers. Dallas got over it a long time ago. Houston homers...still haven't let go.
12-14-2013, 06:49 PM
Location: The Bayou City
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The only people that are giving the Margaret Hunt Hill Bridge any publicity are Houston homers. Dallas got over it a long time ago. Houston homers...still haven't let go.
TBH i have no idea who originally brought the bridge up into this discussion.
12-14-2013, 06:57 PM
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Well the second one is under construction now so it'll be even better when Its built. When all the development is done in west Dallas and the two lakes are put up under the bridges you Houstonians wont have anything to say then...time: cures everything. Look at London with the Eiffel Tower,they hated it at first now its an icon out of this world.
12-14-2013, 07:00 PM
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Some people just lack comprehension skills. A river, is a river, is a river, is a river! No matter the width, it still has to be crossed by pedestrians or vehicles. Your not going to force your citizens to swim if they want to get to the other side. Why not cross it on a bridge with style.
To be honest. I've always liked the way the bridge compliments the skyline but after seeing that picture...
What the heck is the point? It looks stupid from above, does it look that bad when crossing it?
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smhhh.. when i said Houston i meant H-O-U-S-T-O-N... just as when most of you say Dallas your actually referring to DFW.
Those aren't signature bridges.
12-14-2013, 07:07 PM
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To be honest. I've always liked the way the bridge compliments the skyline but after seeing that picture...
What the heck is the point? It looks stupid from above, does it look that bad when crossing it?
Those aren't signature bridges.
Agree with most everything up until you said the Montrose bridges weren't signature bridges.. They are indeed signature bridges that are iconic to that stretch of 59/69. They just aren't
tall signature bridges.
12-14-2013, 07:07 PM
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12-14-2013, 07:14 PM
Location: The Bayou City
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They are nice, but far from unique.
i never said it was a one off design or unique. i said they are unique to
that area . whats so innovative/groundbreaking about a central arch with a bunch of cables coming off of it?
there arent any bridges like the Montrose bridges anywhere else in the Houston area that i can recall. they help connect the eclectic areas of Montrose and the Museum District, and do so with a style thats not too subtle, but not too pretentious/over the top either like the MHH.
i guess we can agree to disagree on the definition of a signature bridge.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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