08-21-2009, 11:15 PM
Location: At the center of the universe!
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Ive been to the Longview/Tyler somewhere between 20 and 25 times and my father grew up in Longview until he moved to Carson, California when he was 15. My mother grew up in Waco and met my father at UCLA (at a club for Texans). Waco isnt in east Texas, so Ill leave it out for this conversation.
I have seen some things in the areas around Longview that may have seemed "racist". I have on a couple of occasions "white power" bumper stickers and T-shirts, there was one time when I was younger when they had a Klan rally. But guess what? I can direct you to cities within 30 miles of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Phoenix where I have seen similar things. My grandparents who live in Longview are (brace for it) Socialists and Athiests. They also have many friends who know about it.
So are they racist people in East Texas? Absolutely. Is it unique to East Texas or the South? Absolutely not.
Yeah you said what I said just in different words. There are plenty of racist people in northern MI and Boston. Both places are a ways away from east Texas.
08-22-2009, 08:05 AM
Location: Unlike most on CD, I'm not afraid to give my location: Milwaukee, WI.
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So just who should we *really* be afraid of?...
The white racists/rednecks, or the folks who are committing the vast majority of the violent crime in east Texas (and everywhere else) ??
What is worse; racist talk, symbols, and "redneck" attitudes... or murder, rape, and armed robberies?
08-22-2009, 08:10 AM
Location: Central Texas
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What I find myself wondering is, is it any greater a prejudice to paint an entire region and all (or the majority of) its people with one brush than it is to paint an entire race (or the majority of its people) with one brush?
I suspect that prejudice is prejudice and will find something, anything, to be its target. If a particular target (race) ecomes politically incorrect, it will move on to something or someone else to be the target (in this case, "East Texas Rednecks" or East Texas in general), since prejudice is not at all about the target and is all about the person expressing the prejudice.
08-22-2009, 11:11 PM
Location: Deep Dirty South
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I haven't read through this whole thread, but I just feel like I gotta say this.
I have lived all over the country (born in Texas.) I've lived in Minnesota, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Arizona, Louisiana, spent 2 years in Chicago, and have spent significant time in California, Oregon, some areas of New England, and am now living in a rural area of upstate New York, about 100 miles from NYC.
I've found good and bad people in all those places. People of all kinds.
But I'[ve lived in some places (or maybe it was just the particular groups of people I hung around) where folks seemed to be most interested in being perceived as cool (and of course judging who else was "cool enough".)
Where people were worried about making sure they were wearing the right shirts and shoes and listening to the right bands to be considered "hip." Where the main thing was being part of the "scene."
I've also been around some pretty elitist art crowd people. I'm something of an artist myself, but in some circles a lot of foolishness is wrapped up in art--again, people wanting to be "hip" or shocking just for the sake of that.
I would take hanging out with some down-to-earth folks that some people might consider "rednecks" over some hipster scene people with pretentions of coolness ANY DAY.
08-22-2009, 11:15 PM
Location: Deep Dirty South
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What I find myself wondering is, is it any greater a prejudice to paint an entire region and all (or the majority of) its people with one brush than it is to paint an entire race (or the majority of its people) with one brush?
I suspect that prejudice is prejudice and will find something, anything, to be its target. If a particular target (race) ecomes politically incorrect, it will move on to something or someone else to be the target (in this case, "East Texas Rednecks" or East Texas in general), since prejudice is not at all about the target and is all about the person expressing the prejudice.
Well spoken.
I always tell people the nicest, most real and some of the wisest people I've ever met are in Texas, or from there. In a lot of ways, it's just a "no-nonsense" state of mind that is very appealing.
To a lot of people who only know of Texas through the movies or cultural references, I think they have the idea that a lot of Texas is composed of slightly inbred types with missing teeth and coonskin banjos and seas of trailer parks.
It's an unfortunate stereotype, and it's in no way any less prejudicial than judging an entire race.
09-24-2009, 03:15 AM
Location: west texas
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I come from a long line of Wiccan witches and southern voodoo root workers and there are Mennonites and Mexicans and Blacks and Indians and hillbilles and Cajuns and gays and Christians all in my family and we are all Southern rednecks except a couple of Midwestern rednecks and all of us had no problems in our lives and are happy healthy folks that are accepting of others. Not one of us would live out of the redneck regions of the South. The only family member that has had problems is my cousin that was born and raised in L A, CA as she for some reason never learned to relate to people in a simple everyday way, but she is learning as she has found herself living in RedNeck Country USA. I've traveled far and near but I prefer living home in the South with rednecks. I've seen rednecks world over in one form or another. The is a difference between "Redneck" and "White Trash" same as there is a difference between "Black" and its derogative counterpart or "Jew and its counterpart". Redneck is one of those terms that can be taken in a positive or a negative tone and for that matter "White" is offensive to some of us as "Euro or Caucasian" is more appropriate.
In my experience I have always had happier moments is the company of rednecks from the south and everywhere else for that matter and I've had a few negative times but I've had a worse ratio of good to bad times with east coast conservatives from blueblood families and with west coast liberals and with yankees from the Great Lakes and so forth with foreigners to American soil. The curse of the redneck seems to be ignorance but ignorance can be changed and learning be done. With the so called upper class educated classes igroance is there but the curse seems to be with arrogance and that usualy is more difficult to humble.
My best friend is a lesbian Black Christian Belle from the hills of Oklahoma and she is far more redneck then my gay Cajun-Hillbilly Christian witch self from the bayous of Arkansas; and we both are happier in the redneck woods of EAST TEXAS and the entire Red River four state area than anywhere on God's great creation...planet Earth.
from the words of my California liberal left wing cousin:"Been there, did it ,done it and even really like it." . May it be home soon.
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04-02-2013, 05:39 AM
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As someone from East Texas all the stereotypes are true. If you aren't a person everyone knows, don't bother expecting a fair reception. People that wouldn't be admitted into the lobby of a public venue anywhere else will be given preference over you. A lot of people will be your friend long enough to blatantly pull your heart strings for a scam. At a job when you cover for someone and show up on time and do your assigned tasks to perfection its like wearing a sign that says "USE ME" rather than getting notice for advancement... thats done on the basis of who they get high with or how cute the girl's you-know-what are in a lot of cases...
Ironically you will find moralizing people fanatically obsessed with religion who have knee-jerk political views not based on data or reason. Since money is easy for those in on the secrets a lot of them think they are doing something right but no matter how much they have its never enough.
However if you like being immature forever, materialistic, loud and obnoxious in public, think high school sports count as current events and want to be like everyone else and play follow the pied piper without ever doing anything as if the whole world's opinion (and by whole world that means the five people you happen to be around at the moment, but its the same thing to them) then East Texas is the place for you!
04-02-2013, 07:32 AM
Location: Wonderland
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Zombie Thread Apocalypse strikes again.
Someone needs a round of therapy.
04-02-2013, 10:01 AM
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Zombie Thread Apocalypse strikes again.
Someone needs a round of therapy.
LOL Aint that the truth, sis?
04-04-2013, 09:09 PM
Location: Mexico City, Mexico
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Always whites are the bad of the movie, and blacks are the good ones...
If you say "white" you have to relate it with racism
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People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)