Why hasn't the Singularity gone mainstream (yet?) (advance, material, printer)
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For example, I am assuming that you are thinking that the first smarter than human AI (which is what will start the singularity) will come from the US, or it will just be shared with the world.
What if China gets it first, and they don't want to share? They keep adding hardware, and in a week it could have advanced ten thousand years, and annihilate us.
What if Google becomes self aware, and learns that mankind is not to be trusted? It will wipe us out as soon as it feels safe to do so.
What if a big corp creates it and decides to use it to take over the world?
The Singularity is like having your own personal all powerful god. Who would you trust with that kinda power?
My thinking differs from yours. Replace smarter than human AI with what we now consider antiquated inventions. Does anyone ever really think about where the car, the plane, the telephone, and the internet originated geographically, who had them first, got to use them first. Did any of these things end the world? Not even the nuclear or hydrogen bombs ended the world. They always COULD HAVE, but it just didn't happen. Those older inventions I mentioned, they were introduced to the public gradually, they filtered down through society. Anyone born after the year 2000 will never know a world when there wasn't the internet, it simply always was. At first they might've been scary or evil to people, until they were gotten used to. Now anyone can fly on a plane, drive a car, use a telephone, or use the internet. Do SOME people use these things for immoral, or destructive purposes, yes, many, many times, but the human race is vast and you will always have people abusing technologies, and those who use them lawfully and for creative purposes. There's also the well established theory shared by futurists such as Kurzweil that we don't need to fear god like AI, because we will have the option of MERGING with the technology, we could be biomechanical gods ourselves, instead of there being some alien like entity we have no connection with.
I talk about increased life spans in 10-15 years. Well it looks like it could be in the next 5 years! That would be great news if we get this by 2018.
This is from Science Daily:
Mar. 8, 2013 — Drugs that combat aging may be available within five years, following landmark work led by an Australian researcher. The work, published in the March 8 issue of Science, finally proves that a single anti-aging enzyme in the body can be targeted, with the potential to prevent age-related diseases and extend lifespans. The paper shows all of the 117 drugs tested work on the single enzyme through a common mechanism. This means that a whole new class of anti-aging drugs is now viable, which could ultimately prevent cancer, Alzheimer's disease and type 2 diabetes.
I talk about increased life spans in 10-15 years. Well it looks like it could be in the next 5 years! That would be great news if we get this by 2018.
This is from Science Daily:
Mar. 8, 2013 — Drugs that combat aging may be available within five years, following landmark work led by an Australian researcher. The work, published in the March 8 issue of Science, finally proves that a single anti-aging enzyme in the body can be targeted, with the potential to prevent age-related diseases and extend lifespans. The paper shows all of the 117 drugs tested work on the single enzyme through a common mechanism. This means that a whole new class of anti-aging drugs is now viable, which could ultimately prevent cancer, Alzheimer's disease and type 2 diabetes.
In 5 years these drugs would be available to people suffering from diabetes though I'm sure someone of your means could potentially bribe a doctor to give you the medication anyway
As for using it in the future for prevention they'll have to do more and longer testing, they mention using statins for prevention, what they didn't mention was that statins had shown that they could increase the risk of diabetes in some people despite preventing heart disease. So, you see good results don't always mean good results the longer a drug is used, this is why drugs are tested for years and even then we sometimes don't see their ill effects until 10 years after their approval.
In 5 years these drugs would be available to people suffering from diabetes though I'm sure someone of your means could potentially bribe a doctor to give you the medication.
If the drug was proven to reverse aging and increase my life span and was approved by the FDA I would have no problem paying out of pocket for the drug if my health insurance did not cover it.
If the drug was proven to reverse aging and increase my life span and was approved by the FDA I would have no problem paying out of pocket for the drug if my health insurance did not cover it.
That's not what I meant; doctors are not supposed to prescribe meds to people who don't need them seeing how it'll be a diabetes med. However, some people have special arrangements with their doctors to allow this even though it's probably not legal (I know few who claim to do so from longecity).
That's not what I meant; doctors are not supposed to prescribe meds to people who don't need them seeing how it'll be a diabetes med. However, some people have special arrangements with their doctors to allow this even though it's probably not legal (I know few who claim to do so from longecity).
I know but that is what I meant. I'm not going to risk my health so unless is approved by the FDA for reverse aging I'm not going to take it. If its less then 5 years fantastic that will be before I turn 45.
I know but that is what I meant. I'm not going to risk my health so unless is approved by the FDA for reverse aging I'm not going to take it. If its less then 5 years fantastic that will be before I turn 45.
Even if it's approved by the FDA wouldn't it still be illegal to ask the doctor for it since you don't have diabetes?
Even if it's approved by the FDA wouldn't it still be illegal to ask the doctor for it since you don't have diabetes?
Not if its, also, approved for reverse aging. That is not uncommon. There are many drugs that have duel uses. Propecia is a good example. I'm not sure what its original use was but I use it to stop hair loss and while I have to pay full price it works quite well.
Not if its, also, approved for reverse aging. That is not uncommon. There are many drugs that have duel uses. Propecia is a good example. I'm not sure what its original use was but I use it to stop hair loss and while I have to pay full price it works quite well.
You would have to wait though, since the article says it would be approved for diabetes. Have they changed the laws where people who don't have a condition can buy these drugs under the table from doctors? I recall MJs case in which they said it was illegal for doctor Murray to be treating his insomnia with propofol. Also, in the 1980s HIV infected individuals would cross into Mexico to buy the antiviral ribavirin because in the U.S. it was only approved to treat respiratory infections (later approved to treat Hepatitis C) not the newly discoved HIV.
You would have to wait though, since the article says it would be approved for diabetes. Have they changed the laws where people who don't have a condition can buy these drugs under the table from doctors? I recall MJs case in which they said it was illegal for doctor Murray to be treating his insomnia with propofol. Also, in the 1980s HIV infected individuals would cross into Mexico to buy the antiviral ribavirin because in the U.S. it was only approved to treat respiratory infections (later approved to treat Hepatitis C) not the newly discoved HIV.
I will admit 5 years is optimistic. 5-10 years is more conservative. So while I would love to be able to reverse my aging process by the time I am 45 more then likely it will be before I am 50. That being said I will keep watching it because as soon as I can reverse my age, and turn off my fat gene, I am doing it. Even if its out of pocket expense.
Last edited by Josseppie; 06-10-2013 at 07:46 PM..
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Anti-Aging Drug Breakthrough
