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Old 01-11-2022, 06:56 AM
 
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Today's Update From Jackson Health System in Miami

https://twitter.com/JacksonHealth/st...99099775877128

"Jackson Health System hospitals currently have 517 patients who have tested positive for COVID-19 (+3 from yesterday).
Of those, 243 patients - or 47% - are admitted to the hospital primarily for non-COVID reasons.

Of the 517, 112 are vaccinated, 49 of whom are immunocompromised transplant patients."
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Old 01-11-2022, 07:16 AM
 
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Today's Update from Sarasota Memorial Hospital

Sarasota Memorial Hospital-Sarasota & Sarasota Memorial Hospital-Venice
COVID-19 Patient Update
Includes hospitalized patients who are positive for COVID-19 and those cleared of infection but still hospitalized at SMH facilities.

Total COVID inpatients today: 167 (161 yesterday)
COVID patients in ICU: 23 (20 yesterday)
% Unvaccinated Inpatients*: 67% (updated weekly on Wednesdays)

* We categorize patients as “vaccinated” once they have received the required primary dose(s) of a COVID-19 vaccine and 2 weeks have passed since the final dose. At this time, we do not require that patients have booster doses to be categorized as fully vaccinated. An increase in break-through infections is expected as the Omicron variant spreads and immunity wanes among those who are high-risk and those who have not yet gotten a booster dose. COVID-19 vaccinations and booster shots are still the most effective method in preventing severe illness and hospitalization.


COVID-19 Test Results:
SMH positivity rate: 26.1% (28.1% for week ending Jan. 7, 2021)

Cumulative COVID-19 Cases:
Total number of patients treated since outbreak began.
Patient admissions: 5,192 (5,163 yesterday)
Patient deaths: 541 (539 yesterday)

source:
https://www.smh.com/Home/News-Events...ly-news-update
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Old 01-11-2022, 07:32 AM
 
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This is a good thread about the Covid "with or for" hospital admissions debate. Some of these classifications are actually "gray areas" and subjective judgement is involved. (This thread is from: Howard Forman - MD/MBA; Professor @YaleSOM@YaleMed@YaleSPH; Former Senate Staff).

https://twitter.com/thehowie/status/1480894199545450498

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"*Incidental* COVID admissions:
1. Often they ARE caused by COVID. Just not the obvious COVID pneumonia.
2. They strain the health system because you can't willfully put another patient at risk.
3. They are NOT (typically) acquired INSIDE the hospital.

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If a patient is in a car accident and tests positive, we all can recognize that this is true *incidental* covid. This is a small minority of such cases.

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Many patients present for a work-up of unusual symptoms, including those related to diarrhea/enteritis or blood clotting/vascular symptoms. These are being called *incidental* and we just do not know what contribution COVID is making, but it is likely significant.

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Some patients are admitted with typical stroke or myocardial infarction and these are almost always called *incidental* and they may well be. But we have strong evidence to support higher risk for these disorders in patient's testing positive for COVID.

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You can not put a newly diagnosed COVID patient on an oncology ward or surgical floor, knowing that this could spread to vulnerable individuals. They require different levels of attention and isolation. This adds to strain. Incidental or not, this is a problem.

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To the best of my current knowledge, there are only RARE instances of someone acquiring COVID during their hospital stay. This has been another myth circulating.

To say that *incidental* covid = hospital acquired covid is a lie.

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Old 01-11-2022, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Admittedly, I have not invested much time into the details of this topic. I've learned just enough to keep myself & my family safe. We've been responsible, & prudent to protect ourselves, and others around us, but have ignored the Fauci guidelines regarding boosters, & constant masking. I've discounted "cases", since so few "cases" died, if <60, & healthy otherwise.

As a lightly C-19 educated person, here's my takeaway from where we are at today:

-98%+ of those testing positive now, have Omicron, NOT the original C-19 or Delta.

-Omicron is like a mild cold. If a mild cold can kill you, then beware of Omicron...otherwise, carry on.

-75% of those who died of Covid-19 had 4 or more co-morbidities...they were very sick pre-Covid. Many sought treatment for those issues, but were also found to be covid positive, so their deaths were chalked up to Covid, because hospitals got paid for it, which heavily over-stated C-19 deaths.

-The masks that most people wear are mostly ineffective, unless they are N-95 or KN-95, which is all we wear...when we mask.

I'm confused at what I see in our media, in our government, in our healthcare systems, & with many residents here. At this point in time particularly, it all looks like a colossal over-reaction.

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Old 01-11-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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-Omicron is like a mild cold. If a mild cold can kill you, then beware of Omicron...otherwise, carry on.
This is politically motivated double-speak. Yes you don't need to panic and for some people Omicron is like a mild cold - but for many it's not. Especially for the unvaccinated. It's estimated that Omicron's virulence is less than Delta but on par with that of the original Wuhan strain. It's also a disservice that this misinformation about Omicron being mild is plastered all over the media & internet. Because it enourages people to avoid boosters, which are proven to be effective against hospitalizations. Much more so than the 2-dose regimen. Yes Omicron is milder than Delta - but it's not mild.

Also long-covid is an issue for many people. And some people develop long-covid even if they initially only had a "mild case".

https://twitter.com/thehowie/status/1479166824503783429

"COVID remains well more than 10X the average Flu season in terms of deaths (even with vaccinating for both) & hospitalizations.

To equate the health system strain between these two entities is to ignore reality."

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https://twitter.com/JustTheFacts37/s...05799245381634

"The ICU number really is the key figure. Typically in FL, total deaths reported runs about 10% of the daily ICU total

At Delta peak, it was 3,600 in ICU (which was probably an undercount due to capacity limitations) —> 400 deaths/day

So estimated 1,500 Omicron ICU peak —> 150/day"

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5 reasons you should not deliberately catch Omicron to 'get it over with'

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/01/11/h...ess/index.html

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"we need to understand the “intrinsic severity” of Omicron - now just look at the raw numbers. Don’t forget Delta is 2-3 more severe than Wuhan strain, so comparing Omicron vs delta is unfair.

New United Kingdom study found that after adjusting for factors, Omicron is only slightly intrinsically milder than Delta —2%-12%"

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/statu...42223133982722

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Old 01-11-2022, 08:41 AM
 
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... for some people Omicron is like a mild cold....
What happened to the concern about asymptomatic spread? I thought part of the exponential growth of Covid was due to so many being contagious before showing symptoms.

Clearly there's a trade-off between "best practices" like contact tracing and the reality that we've failed at Covid containment, but I think it's still helpful to remember the facts.
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Old 01-11-2022, 12:01 PM
 
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What happened to the concern about asymptomatic spread? I thought part of the exponential growth of Covid was due to so many being contagious before showing symptoms.

Clearly there's a trade-off between "best practices" like contact tracing and the reality that we've failed at Covid containment, but I think it's still helpful to remember the facts.
IMO the single best preventive measure against Omicron is to get boosted. Hospitalizations & serious disease are very low for the boosted. One thing to keep in mind though is that booster effectiveness wears off over time & they are most effective for 10 weeks. Also it's not just that the raw number of antibodies are increased with a booster - but also the scope of the antibodies are increased.
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Old 01-11-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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New Covid Test site opens in Venice starting tomorrow 1/12/2022. On Venice Island. Free. NO APPOINTMENT NEEDED. Open 8-4 Mon-Sat

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The Florida Department of Health, Sarasota County, and the city of Venice have partnered with Sarasota-based Lab Services to increase the availability of COVID-19 testing in South County.

On Wednesday, Jan. 12, Lab Services will open an additional walk-up testing site in the south parking lot of the Venice Community Center, 326 S. Nokomis Ave., Venice Island.

Testing will be offered 8 a.m.-4 p.m., Monday through Saturday.

Testing is free. PCR testing will be available.
https://www.yoursun.com/coronavirus/...f7958c303.html
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Old 01-11-2022, 02:59 PM
 
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What happened to the concern about asymptomatic spread? I thought part of the exponential growth of Covid was due to so many being contagious before showing symptoms.

Clearly there's a trade-off between "best practices" like contact tracing and the reality that we've failed at Covid containment, but I think it's still helpful to remember the facts.
He copied that from another poster’s post attempting to mitigate the seriousness of Omicrom and CoVid in general
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Old 01-12-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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Today's Update From Sarasota Memorial Hospital

Sarasota Memorial Hospital-Sarasota & Sarasota Memorial Hospital-Venice
COVID-19 Patient Update
Includes hospitalized patients who are positive for COVID-19 and those cleared of infection but still hospitalized at SMH facilities.

Total COVID inpatients today: 172 (167 yesterday)
COVID patients in ICU: 25 (23 yesterday)
% Unvaccinated Inpatients*: 61% (updated weekly on Wednesdays)

* We categorize patients as “vaccinated” once they have received the required primary dose(s) of a COVID-19 vaccine and 2 weeks have passed since the final dose. At this time, we do not require that patients have booster doses to be categorized as fully vaccinated. An increase in break-through infections is expected as the Omicron variant spreads and immunity wanes among those who are high-risk and those who have not yet gotten a booster dose. COVID-19 vaccinations and booster shots are still the most effective method in preventing severe illness and hospitalization.


COVID-19 Test Results
SMH positivity rate: 27.9% (28.1% for week ending Jan. 7, 2021)

Cumulative COVID-19 Cases
Total number of patients treated since outbreak began.
Patient admissions: 5,234 (5,192 yesterday)
Patient deaths: 541 (no change from yesterday)

source:
https://www.smh.com/Home/News-Events...ly-news-update
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