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You have to find something that is appealing to both of you. We visited 3 states before we found something we both found acceptable. Worse for us because I hate heat and DH hates cold. So we have 4 seasons where we both are unhappy some of the time.
Start with states with no taxes, or that tax your type of retirement, then look at weather and the rest.
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This thread sound as if Florida is dangerous and a precarious disaster area waiting to happen. It isn't.
Humidity is not toxic--unless you mean air pollution?
If you would never live there---what if you suddenly was given a totally free cool home near the coast. I would go, wouldn't you?
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Not a fan of FL. Terrain-wise, not a pretty state, unless you're a fan of beaches. Hurricanes are always a threat anywhere in FL. Hot. Humid. Bugs. Lots of people, sand, and stunted trees that have a hard time because of poor soil conditions. Many retirees move here because of no state income tax and the warmer (often hot) weather.
The stunted trees in our yard has got to be the worse part of living in Florida. I don’t know why we stay.
The stunted trees in our yard has got to be the worse part of living in Florida. I don’t know why we stay.
I see stunted trees in your photo. Even the live oak does not appear to be completely thriving. Palms are a different story. If you think FL has vigorous trees, you need to take a trip to western NC.
From an engineering viewpoint, if your lifestyle is mostly indoors - you can probably have a custom built hurricane resistant superinsulated house that can be comfortable with little energy input. (See Deltec homes, Monolithic domes, etc)
If you want outdoor living, without the heat and humidity, that's a problem.
On the other hand, if you want to migrate with the seasons, then you could probably have a reasonable compromise.
Winter in Florida,
Spring, Fall in the Virginia or NC mountains,
Summer in upstate New York, Lake Adirondack, Lake George, Finger lakes, etc.
Another option is a nice class A motorhome (bus), and move with the seasons.
Tiffins have a good reputation - far better than Thor and Winnebago
From an engineering viewpoint, if your lifestyle is mostly indoors - you can probably have a custom built hurricane resistant superinsulated house that can be comfortable with little energy input. (See Deltec homes, Monolithic domes, etc)
If you want outdoor living, without the heat and humidity, that's a problem.
On the other hand, if you want to migrate with the seasons, then you could probably have a reasonable compromise.
Winter in Florida,
Spring, Fall in the Virginia or NC mountains,
Summer in upstate New York, Lake Adirondack, Lake George, Finger lakes, etc.
Another option is a nice class A motorhome (bus), and move with the seasons.
Tiffins have a good reputation - far better than Thor and Winnebago
We have a lot of people in our development who do just that - live half the year in western NC and the other half in mid to southern FL. The summer high temperature almost never goes above the middle 80s in the summer, and the humidity is typically less than that in FL in the summer.
Not a fan of FL. Terrain-wise, not a pretty state, unless you're a fan of beaches. Hurricanes are always a threat anywhere in FL. Hot. Humid. Bugs. Lots of people, sand, and stunted trees that have a hard time because of poor soil conditions. Many retirees move here because of no state income tax and the warmer (often hot) weather.
Central parts of the state (Horse County has huge oaks, and pines, and beautiful terrain). All of FL is far from being beach terrain as you describe. The southern area is subtropical in nature and has appropriate vegetation there -and it's pretty abundant in growth. Disagree w/ much of what you've posted.
I see stunted trees in your photo. Even the live oak does not appear to be completely thriving. Palms are a different story. If you think FL has vigorous trees, you need to take a trip to western NC.
My parents retired to western NC with their property bordering on the Smokies. I loved their place, all their neighbors were Floridians with second homes in the mountains.
Our live oak was pruned back 30% to keep the insurance company happy. We had the canopy opened at the same time and the arborist has been out once more since then to prune. That tree is thriving just fine.
You didn’t say vigorous trees, you said stunted. That was seriously scraping the bottom of the barrel to find things wrong with FL. The flora and fauna in FL are not like those of the states north of it. You either appreciate the difference or you don’t. Exaggerating to make a point wasn’t needed and showed your ignorance and bias.
My parents retired to western NC with their property bordering on the Smokies. I loved their place, all their neighbors were Floridians with second homes in the mountains.
Our live oak was pruned back 30% to keep the insurance company happy. We had the canopy opened at the same time and the arborist has been out once more since then to prune. That tree is thriving just fine.
You didn’t say vigorous, you said stunted. That was seriously scraping the bottom of the barrel to find things wrong with FL. The flora and fauna in FL are not like those of the states north of it. You either appreciate the difference or you don’t. That’s fine, but exaggerating to make a point isn’t needed.
For whatever it's worth, I love your tree and you have a lovely house.
My parents retired to western NC with their property bordering on the Smokies. I loved their place, all their neighbors were Floridians with second homes in the mountains.
Our live oak was pruned back 30% to keep the insurance company happy. We had the canopy opened at the same time and the arborist has been out once more since then to prune. That tree is thriving just fine.
You didn’t say vigorous, you said stunted. That was seriously scraping the bottom of the barrel to find things wrong with FL. The flora and fauna in FL are not like those of the states north of it. You either appreciate the difference or you don’t. That’s fine, but exaggerating to make a point isn’t needed.
The reality is that trees in many areas of FL appear stunted AND not vigorous. Certainly, there are some parts in the Panhandle and around Tallahassee where trees do better. The furthur south you go, the less hospitable the soil and climate is for most trees. Palms and crepe myrtles do well in hot weather, although the latter do begin to drop leaves with drought and too much heat. There are areas in FL that I like, but not so much for the trees.
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So we have 4 seasons where we both are unhappy some of the time.
