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Old 07-11-2023, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Seriously cool pic, our boy is walking into a very tall door. There are soo many spooky faces, faces that will startle you when they come into view, really big faces, faces all over the garment no matter what fold you are looking at. This skerch is telling a story whether its practice or not, its a masterpiece.

I would hang this painting on my wall with a swivle or allowing it to circle allowing faces to pop out at you. Very interesting, thete is a woman there.

Look for big faces like half the gsrment
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Old 07-11-2023, 04:49 PM
 
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Well, just trying to get all the sketches that are telling a story whether while practicing or not, if it has a story to tell, I want to know what its saying.

See the big footstep?

Dude is walking everywhere.
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Old 07-11-2023, 05:19 PM
 
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The awespme symbolism of this painting is derived from the concept of Issachar, and his brother Zebulun as merchant sailors in a boat upon the sea. This concept was spoken of in the Koran but is generally unheard of today when in fact, the concept was the reason for a great deal of the New Testament being written, especially a lot of Revelation.

It was the reason for Peter jumping out of the boat, and of the fall of Babylon, Da Vinci knew the concept and put his own slant upon it.

Issachar and Zebelunn represent your two eyes, your two lives.

Isaachar only sits in the boat studying to be a priest while Zebulun fishes to make money to support him while he studies, and when Isaachar gets through studying, he jumps from the boat just like Peter did, and the reason Jesus asked 3 times," Do you love me Peter?"


He asked in Zebulun, in Issachar and in Judah.

Being in the east camp is the second level of a progressive path where one moves from camp to camp.

See, Da Vinci knew the path, so he doesnt use the east camp of Judah with Zebulun and Isachar.


Thats why its so awesome, he has finished the race and now he is in the west camp with Benjamin as the wolf.


Who is the tree?
Who is the Phoenix?
Who is the wind?
Who is the sail?

These questions and others, I mean its a wonderful image I have only just seen but I love it, he moved from the East Camp into the south camp and has now finished in the West Camp.

It just confirms things I knew to be true, Jacob's blessing is a ladder, a progression through 4 camps.
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Old 07-11-2023, 05:30 PM
 
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This one telling a story I wont be able to read without some Pink Floyd blaying in the background, a black light with proper spiritual food.

Wished I could see.the words.
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Old 07-11-2023, 05:52 PM
 
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Hi Hanni

What do you think of Michelangelo's sculpture of Moses with horns?

I was perusing the Judaism forum and saw a pictorial depiction of Moses with horns. If the horns are not highlighted, they could easily be overlooked. I want to be mindful when discussing the topic; in some cultures, horns are traditionally associated with evil or the devil, which could insult some. Additionally, this image represents a religious figure that can be seen as disrespectful. The sculpture depicting Moses with horns is most commonly associated with Michelangelo. In the early 16th century, Michelangelo created a famous statue of Moses as part of his work on Pope Julius II's tomb in the church of San Pietro in Vincoli (St. Peter in Chains) in Rome, Italy. The statue shows Moses with horns on his head, which is believed to result from a Bible mistranslation. In the Book of Exodus, Moses is described as having "rays of light" or "horns" on his face, but the Hebrew word "karan" can be translated as either "rays" or "horns." Michelangelo chose to interpret it as horns, leading to the depiction seen in his sculpture.
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Old 07-11-2023, 08:17 PM
 
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Hi Hanni

What do you think of Michelangelo's sculpture of Moses with horns?

I was perusing the Judaism forum and saw a pictorial depiction of Moses with horns. If the horns are not highlighted, they could easily be overlooked. I want to be mindful when discussing the topic; in some cultures, horns are traditionally associated with evil or the devil, which could insult some. Additionally, this image represents a religious figure that can be seen as disrespectful. The sculpture depicting Moses with horns is most commonly associated with Michelangelo. In the early 16th century, Michelangelo created a famous statue of Moses as part of his work on Pope Julius II's tomb in the church of San Pietro in Vincoli (St. Peter in Chains) in Rome, Italy. The statue shows Moses with horns on his head, which is believed to result from a Bible mistranslation. In the Book of Exodus, Moses is described as having "rays of light" or "horns" on his face, but the Hebrew word "karan" can be translated as either "rays" or "horns." Michelangelo chose to interpret it as horns, leading to the depiction seen in his sculpture.
Thank you so much for your reply, I really, really like the horns and depending what animal and what is happening, yea, horns say a lot, are really cool and there is no evil in them, only power, and nothing stand next to a bull concerning horns, the bull is king, and better to be a one horned bull broken in battle to be a ram, and that says a lot.

Deuteronomy

His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh..


The seed of Joseph is Ephraim and Mannessa, they are,", Israel."
The seed of David is in Judah, Levi, and Benjamin, the are," Judah."

Moses was the grestest General thst Egypt had ever seen when he chose to die as the greatest Egyptian ever born, Moses died to himself, he killed the Egyptian he was born as and he chose to be lower than a dog after losing in a war.

The greeatest looking man anyone had ever seen that when he was just a boy people stopped in the streets just to see him, they called him, " Osiris.," because like Osiris he was taken from the water.

Moses was a genius in battle having finally conquered Ethiopia using his head.

Imagine Elvis but taller and way better looking, I know its hard, but imagine how loved and spoiled he was, and how educated.

Crushed and broken now in the desert, the most intriguing beaitiful man ever born somehow becomes known as the most humble man who would ever lived, how in the world?

Moses sure must have trusted God to have ever gone back, and he had nothing.

God had taken Moses as his own General to lead his army out of Egypt, and these are the millions of Ephraim and Mannessa, half of the nation, and dont start me on the other half. Moses was the greatest General the world had ever produced with the greatest army in the world, now broken and humbled, God would make him the Greatest General of his own. Greatest bull leading bulls and pushing the nations till this day.


Like that last drawing I showed, they call it the wolf, the boat and the tree, but the wolf has horns for the great multitude of bulls that are in Ephraim because its displaying the West camp.

Michael Angelo learned from Da Vinci and like another artist, all three have their own signitures with arrows or keyholes pointing your way to read what they are trying to say. Michael loved his signature pointer, its displayed in the chapel with hidden meanings but he was no Da Vinci, and while Da Vinci saw his work as looking at wood, Angelo was a Genius, and the two paintings I have seen are awesome, one would say, porn. But like Da Vinci, he is telling a story but I have only glanced at it..


This is the only 2 things I have looked at but just for a second, one is clearly male, one is clearly female and they go together and I only suspect a third, but thats my mind and what Da Vinci would do.

My mind sees whats in the darkness and says," Porn."'

I am sure he is telling a story and these works are up there with Da Vinci, I will have to check out his Moses.
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Old 07-11-2023, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I saw a Raphael one tine and it threw me off because he had a bird in his right hand and somebody was explaining the great biblical symbolism in it, and it was said that he studied under Da Vinci, but I know that if he didnt at least know the difference in the two hands, it meant that he didnt learn anything from Da Vinci or the bible because you simply cannot put spirit on the right hand. Maybe he did know and it was an act of defiance, I havent looked at his work.

It just says a lot right from the get go because learning the hands and eyes are the foundation of symbolism and if Da Vinci didnt at least convince him of that, it just says a lot.
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Old 07-11-2023, 08:36 PM
 
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I know there are at least two other artists I want to check out like this guy, a self portrait, his ability for illusion and hidden meaning are excellent, I found one and really enjoyed it and then I couldnt find it again, but this is him.

Magical, candy for the eyes.

The things people put in darkness, you want to paint something very bright, and in the darkness around, you hide.
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Old 07-11-2023, 10:31 PM
 
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This is a delight, I mean you can see just how deep and real the illusuon is. The right eye has the tongue of a serpent coming out. Beside his right eye on his cheek, look at the biggest mass of white as a man's face, and that is Da Vinci with his canvas.

As far as I can tell, we are in a tomb, and thr serpents split tongue plays as a key turning like we are inside and somebody is coming through the door, perhaps its the doors inside a person, nonetheless, behind a locked door that has a key in the keyhole turning, opening.

This painting is so complicated and when you look at it right side up, look to the left bottum at our boy going in the door, he makes a rigjt and follow him, and when you realize just how many places you find this image, you realize that the only way to read it is through continual twisting and turning cause dude is walking all over the sketch back and forth everywhere. A masterpiece in itself with real colored faces that pop out at you if and when you see them, there is a whole lot of color like a masterpiece hidden, and thats exactly what it is, a hidden masterpiece.


I added this little picture of Da Vinci standing there with his camvas, in all the Da Vinci's, he is treading around with a canvas or a big sketchbook sometimes kon his back, but he is everywhere.

Look at this little picture for a while, the blue in the staff plays as an eye for two she bears, but keep looking, look for really big faces and there are many faces in this very small pic pulled out of the virgin on the rocks, just that one pick is a masterpiece beyond words, the more you look, the more you see. Its almost my favorite pic, and the virgin on the rocks is still the best. The small pic is worth ten min, you wont regret it.

Zoom in on that point with the bigger picture.
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Old 07-12-2023, 12:37 PM
 
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Hidden in the dark.

I have seen this picture but I never imagined something so great, again, I always flip the picture upside down to begin

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