Jesus Christ of the Gospels Never Existed. He's a Myth and I Can Prove It (Part 1). (Kingdom, choice)
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I talk the present world and you talk of past eras when there wasn't any Internet to research all this stuff. If you're convinced Jesus is real, Mystic then by all means carry on. All I'm doing is pointing out the reality of the situation:
1. There isn't any reliable evidence for Jesus' existence
2. Jesus doesn't manifest himself in any way in the present world externally that can be verified by science. Jesus exists only in the minds of people who believe in him.
Whether it's an endorphin rush they get from thinking about Jesus or it's decades and decades of conditioning to believe he exists it doesn't change the reality of the matter. Dope addicts get the same rush from cocaine that Christians get from Jesus. Here's fact for Christians to consider:
"Believing in God can trigger the same reward regions of the brain as taking drugs
Brain scans have shown that religious experiences activate the same neural systems as drug taking"
Do you all want a legal high? Get deeply involved with Jesus. He will light you up exactly like a good line of opiates. Karl Marx had it so right when he said religion is the opiate of the people.
In the u.s. politics is more popular than religion; so much for getting high.
Maybe a figure upon which the Jesus of the gospels was molded did exist. Who knows? We have no record of such a person. The gospels Jesus, the divine son of god who worked miracles certainly never existed because if he had certainly God the Father as he's known would have left us a mountain of evidence for him so high that nobody in the their right mind would question him. The fact we're even having this discussion is pretty good proof he never existed. The fact there isn't a single secular historian from the first century who mentions him whose entry into the record isn't mired in controversy is pretty much proof the gospels Jesus is just a mythical figure like Hercules and Romulus.
When Jesus died, a major earthquake occurred at this time.
This is also supported by geological evidence of that time:
Here's a good one: supernatural darkness at Christ's crucifixion verified by three historians--now get this--Thallus, Phlegon, and Africanus!!!!
Thallus: Date unknown
Phlegon:
Died: Late second century AD; unknown
Africanus:
Died: 240 AD
So unless these guys could live to 200 years they would not have witnessed this darkness.
Now about the darkness:
The gospel stories also make a solar eclipse impossible: the crucifixion passover happened during a full moon, and the darkness supposedly lasted three hours (indeed, Julius Africanus claimed it covered the whole world). Such an impossible event would not fail to be recorded in the works of Seneca, Pliny, Josephus or other historians, yet it is not mentioned anywhere else outside of Christian rhetoric, so we can probably dismiss the idea of this being a real event.
Derek, the darkness simply could not have happened. Nobody who might have experienced it wrote a word about it. It's just more Christian exaggeration and frankly outright lies.
Last edited by mensaguy; 11-27-2022 at 04:57 AM..
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Here's a good one: supernatural darkness at Christ's crucifixion verified by three historians--now get this--Thallus, Phlegon, and Africanus!!!!
Thallus: Date unknown
Phlegon:
Died: Late second century AD; unknown
Africanus:
Died: 240 AD
So unless these guys could live to 200 years they would not have witnessed this darkness.
Now about the darkness:
The gospel stories also make a solar eclipse impossible: the crucifixion passover happened during a full moon, and the darkness supposedly lasted three hours (indeed, Julius Africanus claimed it covered the whole world). Such an impossible event would not fail to be recorded in the works of Seneca, Pliny, Josephus or other historians, yet it is not mentioned anywhere else outside of Christian rhetoric, so we can probably dismiss the idea of this being a real event.
Derek, the darkness simply could not have happened. Nobody who might have experienced it wrote a word about it. It's just more Christian exaggeration and frankly outright lies.
Yep, no one wrote anything down about the event for 60 years afterwards. But before that it was talked about a lot; the word spread from Kingdom to Kingdom by commoners who were there the day of Christ.
Yep, no one wrote anything down about the event for 60 years afterwards. But before that it was talked about a lot; the word spread from Kingdom to Kingdom by commoners who were there the day of Christ.
Ellis, ask yourself:
Why would God have allowed NOTHING to be written about Jesus for such a long period of time?
If God really wanted us to believe in Jesus wouldn't he have made Jesus' life and death so visible and so well known that we'd have dozens of accounts of the miraculous events written immediately afterwards so they could be an irrefutable testimony to his life and salvific work on the cross?
Yep, no one wrote anything down about the event for 60 years afterwards. But before that it was talked about a lot; the word spread from Kingdom to Kingdom by commoners who were there the day of Christ.
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Originally Posted by thrillobyte
Ellis, ask yourself:
Why would God have allowed NOTHING to be written about Jesus for such a long period of time?
If God really wanted us to believe in Jesus wouldn't he have made Jesus' life and death so visible and so well known that we'd have dozens of accounts of the miraculous events written immediately afterwards so they could be an irrefutable testimony to his life and salvific work on the cross?
So you want God to be boastful and then and only then will you believe in Him?
Now you know where the expression, "Get high on Jesus" comes from. It means use Jesus to get high when you're out of snow.
As in
"Happy Holidays, Folks!"
Bait and switch. At no point have you given proof that Jesus is a myth. I have no idea why this thread has gone on this long with such a blatant lie.
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