Atheism As A REJECTION OF--Not Disbelief In--An Evil God (salvation, quote, evolution)
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This is the reason for my emphasis on how religious epistemologies fail to accurately explain or predict one's lived experience. To me if any system of knowledge does not render one's lived experience more, rather than less, understandable and coherent, then it is of no use, if not in fact, of negative value.
Reality has become more explicable, comprehensible and organically consistent with my beliefs, since dispensing with theism altogether. I understand that others happen so far to find various religious beliefs to be sufficiently consistent, which is fine, so long as they don't try to make their beliefs or practices binding on the rest of society, including me.
I for one have no problem conceding that many forms/variations of Christianity may indeed provide a less coherent/consistent view of reality than irreligion/agnosticism/deism.
What is self-evident to me is apparently not the same thing(s) that are "self-evident" to you, and as such, I would suggest the term "self-evident" is not appropriate here...
Regardless what we might know or not know about the universe, there is much that can be argued that in no way involves a god. Those arguments that do nevertheless are theological arguments and in much the same way based on assumptions that religious people are inclined to make that atheists are not. Simple as that, and at a minimum it is important to recognize these distinctions and differences in order to draw proper, accurate and objective conclusions about the truth of these matters.
The harsh truth is also a very simple one. Namely, that you're wrong and your perception is greatly flawed. It's akin to being literally blind. You have a handicap. Since I don't know you, I would not presume to say that the blindness is entirely your fault.
Well each person who claims to have the correct definition of god and the correct understanding of his claims on us, claims to have received that directly from god or at least from some approved intermediary. Which is why all of this self-justifying back-and-forth is so crazy-making after awhile.
This is the reason for my emphasis on how religious epistemologies fail to accurately explain or predict one's lived experience. To me if any system of knowledge does not render one's lived experience more, rather than less, understandable and coherent, then it is of no use, if not in fact, of negative value.
Reality has become more explicable, comprehensible and organically consistent with my beliefs, since dispensing with theism altogether. I understand that others happen so far to find various religious beliefs to be sufficiently consistent, which is fine, so long as they don't try to make their beliefs or practices binding on the rest of society, including me.
There is "fine" as you explain, and there is "fine" in terms of arguments, reason and logic, that well justify a conclusion. In the latter case, not all arguments, reason and logic are as "fine" as others. I don't tend to argue about how religion makes people feel or how well it might work for them to get by in life. My focus is more on the logic and reason, facts, evidence and proof, that distinguishes what we can establish as truth from all that we can't. All regardless how the truth might make anyone feel.
What helps me get by in life is another matter altogether...
I for one have no problem conceding that many forms/variations of Christianity may indeed provide a less coherent/consistent view of reality than irreligion/agnosticism/deism.
And certainly many would include the catholic religion in that less coherent/consistent view of reality.
The harsh truth is also a very simple one. Namely, that you're wrong and your perception is greatly flawed. It's akin to being literally blind. You have a handicap. Since I don't know you, I would not presume to say that the blindness is entirely your fault.
Really? And you don't realize I could say the exact same thing about you?
The reason I don't bother with ridiculous comments like this, based entirely on opinion and nothing in the way of what proves anything in the way of the truth of these matters, is because they are childish. Proclamations made by someone like you as if the mere act of making such a proclamation is in any way convincing. I doubt such a comment is even convincing to you but rather a way to make you feel better about yourself and/or what you believe. Please. I'm sure you can do better than this!
The harsh truth is also a very simple one. Namely, that you're wrong and your perception is greatly flawed. It's akin to being literally blind. You have a handicap. Since I don't know you, I would not presume to say that the blindness is entirely your fault.
And certainly many would include the catholic religion in that less coherent/consistent view of reality.
What is less coherent and inconsistent when it comes to the catholic religion (and most of the others) is pretty low hanging fruit for just about anyone with half an objective brain to recognize and admit. Unfortunately, it is some of the more fundamental reasons that give rise to what is less coherent and all those inconsistencies that too many religious people are not inclined to consider as they should.
Reminds me of that scene from the Wizard of Oz...
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
The harsh truth is also a very simple one. Namely, that you're wrong and your perception is greatly flawed. It's akin to being literally blind. You have a handicap. Since I don't know you, I would not presume to say that the blindness is entirely your fault.
The evidence you ignore says your assertion is not the case.
And certainly many would include the catholic religion in that less coherent/consistent view of reality.
Sure, and they'd be wrong.
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