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View Poll Results: What are your feelings on God?
I reject him 4 5.13%
I do not believe he exists 52 66.67%
I believe in him and believe he is the one and only true God 22 28.21%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-03-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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Wow, you get snarky in a hurry. I was simply explaining to you why I didn't feel comfortable answering the poll, even thought I answered it in the thread.

When you dispute an ardent theist that is usually their reaction.
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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Will you really omit the possibilities that there is a GOD? If there is, you win. If there is not, you also win. Providing you admit Him(- for the Christians. HIM for Jews&Muslims) into your life.

If you do not admit GOD, you would become the godless Chinese though; minding material resources all the times.
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:22 AM
 
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Will you really omit the possibilities that there is a GOD? If there is, you win. If there is not, you also win. Providing you admit Him(- for the Christians. HIM for Jews&Muslims) into your life.

If you do not admit GOD, you would become the godless Chinese though; minding material resources all the times.
Wrong on all counts.

What you actually become is free from all consideration of such an entity and free to live your own life as you see fit.
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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Actual physical and archeological proof of Jesus would be nice to prove there was such a single entity.

Do you want me to define proof for you?
It is impossible to fake the existence of Jesus. Why do you need proofs on this?
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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Wrong on all counts.

What you actually become is free from all consideration of such an entity and free to live your own life as you see fit.
GOD dismissed the carnal laws already. You could live without the laws now. So what is the problem? To love one another or live as peacefully as you could?
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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It is impossible to fake the existence of Jesus. Why do you need proofs on this?
Why do you say that? Can you point to a single piece of contemporary writing that addresses the existence of the Bible character Jesus? If not, how difficult would it be to make up such stories from other legends?
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:46 AM
 
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It is impossible to fake the existence of Jesus. Why do you need proofs on this?
It fact it is entirely possible to fake the existence of Jesus. It would explain, using contemporary mythology, why such an influential and charismatic speaker, attracting crowds from all over Judea, Galilee the Decapolis and Phoenecia nevertheless escaped a description in contemporary history (you can forget about the Flavian forgery).

In fact I think there is evidence that a real Jesus existed, but that also indicates that the gospels account is fabricated.
To put the gospel Jesus back on the map - yes, you need proof (that is decent convincing evidence). Faith claims or demands that we swallow the Bible without stopping to chew won't do.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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Fine. Then there was no Jesus. So what do you think of the fictional guy's teachings?
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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Will you really omit the possibilities that there is a GOD? If there is, you win. If there is not, you also win.
It is not possible to afford belief to something speculatively, just in case. You either have reason to believe it, or you do not. Of course you can FAKE belief, which is basically the premise behind Pascal's Wager, which is what you are parroting here. But it is not even a valid wager, because it incorrectly posits that only one god on offer in a world with countless gods, is the CORRECT one. Every deity's adherents claim their deity is real. What if Odin or Vishnu or Chthulu is the "real" god and you wager on Jehovah?

Even if you wager correctly on Jehovah, will he not know that you're a pretender?
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Old 04-03-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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There's no good option for me in the poll.

I would pick "I humbly admit that I have no idea if a god exists."

I don't "reject" god. I don't declare that there is no god. I feel that my belief is the most honest one possible, because truly, no one KNOWS, as in, proof positive.
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