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Old 05-01-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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I have a few religious friends, one being Muslim and others Christians. The one who is Muslim told me that Allah is great, he created the world and everything in it, and if I don't believe in Him I will burn in hell for all eternity on more than one occasion. He also said that if I don't convert to his religion, I better not convert to Judaism (I have a feeling he doesn't like Jews).

The other Christian one, he said that I was 'blind' not to believe in Jesus. He lectured me on how he was the great 'savior' and he died on the cross for our sins etc etc. Also, if I don't believe in him I will burn in hell and beg God to release me because of the undeniable suffering. Oh, he told me that being an atheist means you don't believe in Jesus. But isn't an atheist a person who doesn't believe in any deity?

I have tried to confront those two but I just can't win. Maybe it's because I'm cr*p at arguing but they just go on and on about it. So how do I stop it? It's exhausting just to argue with them.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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Be thankful you have friends who care about you.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:25 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Kick them in the shins very hard next time they pull that crap!

I can't stand people who's belief systems are so fragile that they must antagonize me just to make themselves feel more pious.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:30 PM
 
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I have a few religious friends, one being Muslim and others Christians. The one who is Muslim told me that Allah is great, he created the world and everything in it, and if I don't believe in Him I will burn in hell for all eternity on more than one occasion. He also said that if I don't convert to his religion, I better not convert to Judaism (I have a feeling he doesn't like Jews).

The other Christian one, he said that I was 'blind' not to believe in Jesus. He lectured me on how he was the great 'savior' and he died on the cross for our sins etc etc. Also, if I don't believe in him I will burn in hell and beg God to release me because of the undeniable suffering. Oh, he told me that being an atheist means you don't believe in Jesus. But isn't an atheist a person who doesn't believe in any deity?

I have tried to confront those two but I just can't win. Maybe it's because I'm cr*p at arguing but they just go on and on about it. So how do I stop it? It's exhausting just to argue with them.
They don't sound like very good friends.

My best friend is a born again christian and I'm a staunch atheist. We can still discuss the issue in a friendly manner. Luckily he is not a Bible literalist. I'd probably have trouble maintaining the friendship if that was the case.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If, after repeatedly telling them you aren't interested in discussing religion and they refuse to stop, it's time to find new friends.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:54 PM
 
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They don't sound like very good friends.

My best friend is a born again christian and I'm a staunch atheist. We can still discuss the issue in a friendly manner. Luckily he is not a Bible literalist. I'd probably have trouble maintaining the friendship if that was the case.
There's no such thing as luck. Him not being a Bible literalist is a result of countless preceding events arranging the atoms in his mind to fire the electrical impulses in his brain to think the things he thinks. Same goes for you being an atheist. And your friendship. Your trouble or lack thereof to maintain it is again a result of material randomly acting in such a fashion to result in what you experience today (if you want to call it experience).
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Phoenix,az
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I have a few religious friends, one being Muslim and others Christians. The one who is Muslim told me that Allah is great, he created the world and everything in it, and if I don't believe in Him I will burn in hell for all eternity on more than one occasion. He also said that if I don't convert to his religion, I better not convert to Judaism (I have a feeling he doesn't like Jews).

The other Christian one, he said that I was 'blind' not to believe in Jesus. He lectured me on how he was the great 'savior' and he died on the cross for our sins etc etc. Also, if I don't believe in him I will burn in hell and beg God to release me because of the undeniable suffering. Oh, he told me that being an atheist means you don't believe in Jesus. But isn't an atheist a person who doesn't believe in any deity?

I have tried to confront those two but I just can't win. Maybe it's because I'm cr*p at arguing but they just go on and on about it. So how do I stop it? It's exhausting just to argue with them.
Just do what I do. Tell them " You live that kind of lifestyle, but I am not into that kind of thing or interested."
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I have a few religious friends, one being Muslim and others Christians. The one who is Muslim told me that Allah is great, he created the world and everything in it, and if I don't believe in Him I will burn in hell for all eternity on more than one occasion. He also said that if I don't convert to his religion, I better not convert to Judaism (I have a feeling he doesn't like Jews).

The other Christian one, he said that I was 'blind' not to believe in Jesus. He lectured me on how he was the great 'savior' and he died on the cross for our sins etc etc. Also, if I don't believe in him I will burn in hell and beg God to release me because of the undeniable suffering. Oh, he told me that being an atheist means you don't believe in Jesus. But isn't an atheist a person who doesn't believe in any deity?

I have tried to confront those two but I just can't win. Maybe it's because I'm cr*p at arguing but they just go on and on about it. So how do I stop it? It's exhausting just to argue with them.
You can either directly tell them you do not want to hear their arguments or indirectly by changing the topic or that you have to go somewhere. Another approach if they don't want to hear you is to simply tell them you do not want to put up with their lack of respect in forcing their issues on you.
Another one I have used when someone brings up the point again is by asking "Do you have anything new that I have not heard on the subject? If not, I do not want to hear it again, thanks." Take care.
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If, after repeatedly telling them you aren't interested in discussing religion and they refuse to stop, it's time to find new friends.
This.

I walked away from a lot of people I called friends when I converted to Judaism. They couldn't handle me leaving Christianity, and couldn't handle being surrounded by jackasses.
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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You need to tell them what you have told us and see if they will agree to a religious promotion free friendship. If they won't, it is time to get new friends since these friends seem to preoccupied with religion. There are subjects that with family and friends, knowing we don't agree or that I don't wish to change whatever, it is just not discussed or I change the subject when they bring it up.
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