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It's also odd that the articles I'm reading keep saying that a lot of people are saying, "no comment". That really sounds like they're hiding something. Maybe I'm reading into it too much...
most everything I've read said "couldn't be reached for comment", which is far different. But I also haven't gone back to the news articles since ~ 10 am to see if anyone DID respond.
If the mega office fell apart in rtp why would apple buy an Outpost just to preserve our feelings
Apple highlighted they are adding 500 jobs at a data center in Maiden. So obviously they’re not too upset my NC politics. And if the government and Wake officials were so blind sided and just knew Apple was coming, that leads me to believe politics, HB2, etc. wasn’t a big deal for them. They would’ve mentioned it or pushed back or there would’ve been clues. There’s 0 evidence to believe politics or HB2 has any impact at all. Also, from WRAL, it wasn’t incentives
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Austin’s incentive package was likely “much, much smaller” than what North Carolina was offering to Apple, he said. A $25 million grant from the Texas Enterprise Fund and an incentive from Travis County were the only enticements on the table there, he said.
Austin was probably a good fit as were the others for some reason. As noted by other posters, Austin was already home to a large Austin operation. It probably made complete sense to continue building out that campus.
Setting NC politics aside... some people say that RTP is obsolete because everybody wants to be downtown these days. Perhaps so. But given the outcomes on Apple and Amazon, the accomplishments of RTP in bringing IBM, Nortel, Glaxo, Burroughs Wellcome, etc to an absolutely unheralded Triangle in the 1960s and 1970s look even more remarkable in hindsight. Our current leaders are having a very difficult time repeating that degree of success.
I honestly feel that Apple's best days are behind it anyway (at least until they show they can innovate w/o Steve Jobs LOL) so maybe in 5-10 years we'll see the high costs of housing (including property taxes) in the Austin area, congestion and hassles there and be thankful...
Apple is a trillion dollar company that has tons of cash. They need to start investing heavily in enterprise-class cloud services and AI if they want to stay relevant.
Smart home products are gimmicky. Perhaps that's the lane they want to stay in?
There was just something about this on NPR news, it will probably repeat. Interesting comment from one person saying that the appearance of consideration of one location being done to influence other locations.
Also made me wonder if prospective companies mine forums like this one for intel on these decisions.
Setting NC politics aside... some people say that RTP is obsolete because everybody wants to be downtown these days. Perhaps so. But given the outcomes on Apple and Amazon, the accomplishments of RTP in bringing IBM, Nortel, Glaxo, Burroughs Wellcome, etc to an absolutely unheralded Triangle in the 1960s and 1970s look even more remarkable in hindsight. Our current leaders are having a very difficult time repeating that degree of success.
RTP needs to evolve to a full "Live, Work, Play" area, with internal mixed use and dedicated internal mass transit that is connected to regional transit via hubs.
Of course, regional transit is woeful, but maybe? Some day?
RTP needs to evolve to a full "Live, Work, Play" area, with internal mixed use and dedicated internal mass transit that is connected to regional transit via hubs.
Of course, regional transit is woeful, but maybe? Some day?
Not likely as long as the state maintains the current 10% cap on state funding for light/commuter rail projects.
Were we chasing waterfalls when we should of stuck to the rivers and the lakes that we're used too
LOL, yes lets run this state based on Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes brilliant philosophies, which by the way if the state had followed 50 years ago, RTP would be full of vacant tobacco and textile mills.
Texas is a tale of two states. About half of the 28M population lives in the blue city centers of Dallas, Houston, Austin (and San Antonio). The remaining population lives in rural areas that typically vote Republican and give the state the overall red color. Austin for sure is more progressive than any North Carolina city regardless of NC being a predominantly blue state.
Austin also makes sense given Apple already has roots there.
NC is not a predominately blue. This is the state of Jesse Helms and since I’ve been here has voted just 1 time for a Dem in a presidential election. I hope we can avoid bills like HB2 as they draw negative headlines to the state. Not sure if it factored in Apple’s decision, but it certainly didn’t help.
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