03-20-2012, 07:09 AM
Location: Port Charlotte
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Went down a little past Cape Haze, fished up the west wall and the northern deep hole today. We had 6 people fishing aboard my buddy's boat. We tried from 1ft to 23ft of water...shrimp, mullet chunks, and crab for bait at varying depths and delivery methods. anyone tried to eat them?
I am not a big fish eater, but I did keep a nice bonnet last year and it was very good- very mild and meaty. I believe they are the best tasting shark here due to their diet of mostly crustaceans. You got the right idea about catching them using crabs and shrimp on the bottom. I kept a blacktip last week, but have yet to try it. They are also suppose to be good, second to the bonnet. No size limits on these, but to get some good meat- keep only a decent sized one.
03-20-2012, 09:32 AM
Location: Florida
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We live in Alaska but are considering a move to Florida. My husband fishes for halibut and salmon up here in his 25 ft. aluminum boat with a hardtop and twin 115 (I think) Yamaha 4-stroke motors. We were in Florida in January and saw only fiberglass boats. My husband literally loves this boat for ocean fishing and would want to take it to Florida, but I'm thinking there must be some reason we saw no aluminum ocean-going boats. Is it just the way they look, or some other reason. Also, this is my first post, so I'm not even sure I'm doing it right. Thanks for any info
Main reason is big aluminums are hard to find down here! I would own one in a heartbeat. The gator hunters all use bigger ones, pontoon boats have aluminum "hull"s and there are many small aluminum jon boats in the back...so no reason not to have one offshore, other than lightening strikes
and bottom paint issues. You need good bottom paint here with the warm water if you keep it in the slip...you can't use the usual copper bottom paint as it will eat the aluminum. It's tough to find good paint made for aluminum.
With the price of aluminum so high, everyone goes for the cheaper fiberglass. In Alaska you have more aluminums probably because of the freezing temps...fiberglass does not like to freeze, especially when waterlogged.
Keep in mind most of the big commercial guys have metal hulls because they know they will last.
Bring that thing down!
03-20-2012, 11:13 AM
Location: Alaska
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Thanks for the great info! Wouldn't have known about the bottom paint issue. He likes to trailer it because of the flexibility on where he can fish, and the thought of being able to fish in warm weather year round is amazing. Wish we could move tomorrow but will probably have to work a few more years. In the meantime, I'll keep reading the forums, and when we finally move, I'll feel like I'm right at home. Sure hate passing up some of the great buys on housing I've seen, however. Good luck with the fishing!
03-20-2012, 02:45 PM
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We're in the same boat. (Pun intended). We can't move yet either, but have made great friends already, JUST by frequenting this forum! We have a lot in PC that we hope to build on, but in the meantime, we come down and visit when we can, and stay with our great friends HH and his lovely wife. And we met because of this board! Same with us and pcozad, Big House, the Sunshines and SoFlGal! So....stick around! You WILL make great friends!
03-20-2012, 03:35 PM
Location: Alaska
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Thanks so much. It's good to know there are so many nice, friendly people there!
03-21-2012, 07:09 PM
Location: Florida
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I did the unthinkable today...
We went on my buddies boat today since mine is still waiting for parts. If you ever see a pontoon with parrots and stuff on the side, that's us in his boat...can't miss it. Anyway, we went more for a test cruise than a fishing trip, but brought rods and bait (and beer) just in case.
We saw lots of activity on the surface all over the northern harbor area. Black fins sticking out of the water, sometimes one at a time, sometimes two or three...small fins, not dolphin or sharks. Sometimes they looked like cobia fins, other times big ray fins and maybe even triple tail. Well, we never figured out what they were. Some report huh?
We were just drifting in the harbor enjoying the breeze and cool weather with some baits out. We tried crab quarters and mullet chunks, top and bottom.
I caught a large sail cat...I think it was the first sail cat I've ever caught but not sure...anyway we decided to keep it as it had lots of meat. I have never kept a catfish before. Even when I eat it at a restaurant I fool myself into thinking it was farm raised in Louisiana or something just so I don't get grossed out. This is what coming from New Jersey and the Delaware River will do to you!
Long story short, I did the unthinkable...filleted up two big cats; one sail and one of the big normal ones (whatever they are called). Fried them in beer batter...pretty damn good, and they both tasted the same to me. So now I've tried mullet and catfish...two trash fish...and thought they were both very good to excellent. I might single-handedly rid the harbor of these junk fish for ya'all.
You're welcome. Burp.
03-22-2012, 05:35 AM
Location: Port Charlotte
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I did the unthinkable today...
We went on my buddies boat today since mine is still waiting for parts. If you ever see a pontoon with parrots and stuff on the side, that's us in his boat...can't miss it. Anyway, we went more for a test cruise than a fishing trip, but brought rods and bait (and beer) just in case.
We saw lots of activity on the surface all over the northern harbor area. Black fins sticking out of the water, sometimes one at a time, sometimes two or three...small fins, not dolphin or sharks. Sometimes they looked like cobia fins, other times big ray fins and maybe even triple tail. Well, we never figured out what they were. Some report huh?
We were just drifting in the harbor enjoying the breeze and cool weather with some baits out. We tried crab quarters and mullet chunks, top and bottom.
I caught a large sail cat...I think it was the first sail cat I've ever caught but not sure...anyway we decided to keep it as it had lots of meat. I have never kept a catfish before. Even when I eat it at a restaurant I fool myself into thinking it was farm raised in Louisiana or something just so I don't get grossed out. This is what coming from New Jersey and the Delaware River will do to you!
Long story short, I did the unthinkable...filleted up two big cats; one sail and one of the big normal ones (whatever they are called). Fried them in beer batter...pretty damn good, and they both tasted the same to me. So now I've tried mullet and catfish...two trash fish...and thought they were both very good to excellent. I might single-handedly rid the harbor of these junk fish for ya'all.
You're welcome. Burp.
I caught and cooked a jack cravel and my wife loved it.
03-22-2012, 05:41 AM
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I did the unthinkable today...
We went on my buddies boat today since mine is still waiting for parts. If you ever see a pontoon with parrots and stuff on the side, that's us in his boat...can't miss it. Anyway, we went more for a test cruise than a fishing trip, but brought rods and bait (and beer) just in case.
We saw lots of activity on the surface all over the northern harbor area. Black fins sticking out of the water, sometimes one at a time, sometimes two or three...small fins, not dolphin or sharks. Sometimes they looked like cobia fins, other times big ray fins and maybe even triple tail. Well, we never figured out what they were. Some report huh?
We were just drifting in the harbor enjoying the breeze and cool weather with some baits out. We tried crab quarters and mullet chunks, top and bottom.
I caught a large sail cat...I think it was the first sail cat I've ever caught but not sure...anyway we decided to keep it as it had lots of meat. I have never kept a catfish before. Even when I eat it at a restaurant I fool myself into thinking it was farm raised in Louisiana or something just so I don't get grossed out. This is what coming from New Jersey and the Delaware River will do to you!
Long story short, I did the unthinkable...filleted up two big cats; one sail and one of the big normal ones (whatever they are called). Fried them in beer batter...pretty damn good, and they both tasted the same to me. So now I've tried mullet and catfish...two trash fish...and thought they were both very good to excellent. I might single-handedly rid the harbor of these junk fish for ya'all.
You're welcome. Burp.
I saw those same black fins this past sunday near the 41 bridges. I was just taking the boat out for a cruise following some minor boat issues and decided not to bother bringing any rods. What a mistake.
03-22-2012, 05:42 AM
Location: Port Charlotte
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Went out yesterday afternoon. The harbor was rough and got worse out past cape haze reef.Got a few trout before the hurricane wind and monsoon like rain started.Just a hint there are some big snook in bull bay and they like live shrimp on a float. This was our first bad weather day of the year and with summer just around the corner it's time to start watching those afternoon thunder storms.It was a wet slow ride back to the dock. If I get out of work early today might try the peace river.
03-22-2012, 08:11 AM
Location: Port Charlotte, FL
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Life is rough in paradise!
yeah yeah yeah....boo hoo
We got 3 more inches of snow last night.
I need the summer to get here so I can get some projects done so I can sell and move down to paradise.
I keep showing my wife the Crow's Nest web cam so she can see yet again another boring nice day.
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People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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and bottom paint issues. You need good bottom paint here with the warm water if you keep it in the slip...you can't use the usual copper bottom paint as it will eat the aluminum. It's tough to find good paint made for aluminum.
Life is rough in paradise!
