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If necessary, yes, that is their job. In most countries the state is the only level of society which has the monopoly to legitimately exert physical force.
You're a hypocrite. You don't mind having someone else kill for you but you won't do so yourself and want to tell others not to defend themselves.
No no no... The argument made by the gun lobby is that less stringent gun laws results in more people carrying, which results in safer communities...
Almost all of the concealed carry folks would make the argument that they carry, at least in part, for safety... So why isn't Arizona-- or at least the Phoenix area--- safer?
One thing to say, Concealed Carry(CC) does nothing to reduce crime/enhance safety. Open Carry(OC) on the other hand does. The only issue with OC is that those who do get labeled as gun totting whack jobs by alot of people.
Think about this. Your a crook and want to knock off a 7-11 or so forth. You have two choices close by. One has half the customers with a loaded pistol on thier hip in plain view the other has half the customers with them concealed (IE you don't know they have them). Which one you going to rob?
The above quote is post 35.
Easy, If I were a criminal bent on robbing these 2 stores i would go for the open carry and shoot all the OC people first, then rob the store. I would walk in guns blazing since I am bound and determined to rob the store.
The other store with the ccw holders is too hard to guess which do and do not carry.
I carry 24/7, and in any stores wonder who is an armed criminal waiting to carry out his deed.
I don't go shopping much over ocne a month and take a list to what ever places I need to go, and spend all day hating every second of it, shopping.
At each new store I enter I remove articals of my clothing in the rest room and then go back to the parking lot and look over what ever vehical I have. So far twice this has produced 'other people' inside my locked and parked vehical. They are never happy about my doing this little habit ever.
I think this has to do with getting caught and knowing the cops will be there in a fair time. Of course I am polite, and ask them to get out of my vehical, and warn them running will just have them end their lives tired.
Once deep in the woods hunting, I returned to my vehical and found 4 guys, 2 inside. I locked n loaded, and we all walked to the chief of polices house in a dead straight line. I told the bad guys i wasn't into wasting good hunting ammo, and explained the properties of my hunting rounds all the way to the Chief's house.
The Chief was very upset too, since he was playing one on one chess with his computer and winning for the first time.
I don't know about places in Az since I passed thru just once.
LOL, you better not ever go to Vermont. Any American citizen can carry there open or conceald with no paper at all..
And Vermont, the state of Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders, isn't exactly a den of right wing loons.
It is a rural state (Burlington is more of a large town than a big city) and thus has a long established gun culture. I think many of the gun debates in the US are more rural vs. urban rather than conservative vs. liberal.
Life, health insurance, fire extinguishers, alarms on houses and cars are not the same thing as guns. Only a complete dipwad would make that argument. Who was the last person to be killed accidental by a car alarm. How does life insurance give you, a stranger, power to kill me any time you choose to if we're proximate...
As far as "no basis in fact" From the CDC:
The 2002 edition of Injury Facts from the National Safety Council reports the following statistics:
In 1999, 3,385 children and youth ages 0-19 years were killed with a gun. This includes homicides, suicides, and unintentional injuries.
This is equivalent to about 9 deaths per day, a figure commonly used by journalists.
The 3,385 firearms-related deaths for age group 0-19 years breaks down to:
214 unintentional
1,078 suicides
1,990 homicides
83 for which the intent could not be determined
20 due to legal intervention
Of the total firearms-related deaths:
73 were of children under five years old
416 were children 5-14 years old
2,896 were 15-19 years old
Regarding the bogus term "hoplophobia." This was coined by a member of the gun-toters lobby... as a way of marginalizing opponents. It is not from any mental health professional, or recognized in the DSIV. Nice try. It seems to be defined by the "irrational fear of weapons." I think its completely rational to fear jingoistic morons toting weapons when I am a member of a minority group that has been subject to hate crime violence in the past...
Again, I believe it is still your right to carry if in accordance with local law... I just don't see the need to carry. I guess I am just not as scared of everything as you are.
Post 85.
Tell me where you live and i will come scare you that bad. I would tell you where I live but it wouldn't have the same impact. I already read you are female and I think with kids.
The reality is you just have never been threatend for your life or your families lives, and if and when that ever happens, you will most certainly have a hard change of mind. This has happened to be twice with my own family, and I have lost 2 family members to stabbing to death which is real ugly. Both of them were eldery, and by the law could not have a gun.
Really tell me where you live and I will come scare you senceless, so you can feel it. I am betting you won't.
And Vermont, the state of Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders, isn't exactly a den of right wing loons.
It is a rural state (Burlington is more of a large town than a big city) and thus has a long established gun culture. I think many of the gun debates in the US are more rural vs. urban rather than conservative vs. liberal.
Yeah Vt is a liberal state, just not a bed of sin. I am a product of 1951. My Father served in WW-2 in subs, but was a modern outdoorsman of his time. The result is I have surpassed his hunting and fishing skills.
He told me hand guns were for killing people only, and for most of my life I believed that, and didn't own any carry type guns for that time.
Things changed in the mid 80's with libral bleeding heart parol ideas, and it has become another world from that, where I come from. With the revolving door policy the bleeding hearts have, to release violent offenders, thar's no bloomin way this side of hell i will go any place un-armed. Not to bed, not to the shower, and certainly no place outdoors. When I leave to town I bring 2 guns.. One can never tell when a mechanical failure will deep six one machines functions, and so I hedge the bet and carry 2.
I would carry a cop, but then I only weigh 150 lbs.
Bleeding Hearts made this problem. I live deep on the woods no close neighbors, i could walk around naked except for the black flies, but anytime I so much as open a window i hear that libral whine.
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