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Old 04-18-2010, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE HEALTH BILLS REQUIRE THE MICRO CHIPPING OF AMERICANS – 3/18/10 « Silver and Gold outlook

All I have to say is, just let em come near me or my children with a chip! I dare em!
We have a WINNER!!!

here do they come from
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:03 AM
 
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Are you actually claiming that "the government" wants to do (or is doing) such a thing?
If its part of the healthcare bill, (the stories link to the old versions and I havent pulled up the new editions to see if it still exists), then it indeed is the government doing such things is it not? Its not McDonalds offering to implant people to track big mac sales..
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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That isn't a huge jump. It isn't a jump at all If there isn't a verifiable way of ensuring the same human being is attached to those records, the records are useless. The executive order included establishing a means of matching individuals with the correct electronic record.

But an executive order isn't the same as a law. Obama took an executive order and made it law. He made it democratic.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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You dont find the idea that the government wasnt to give individuals the opportunity to have a microchip implanted as if we were some type of pet, troubling? You'd be going crazy if this was in a bill by Bush..
So again you agree with me. There is no mandate.

But no, you're incorrect. I'd be upset (I don't go crazy) if the government prohibited someone from having a chip implanted if that's what he desired.

Are you some kind of authoritarian communist?
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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You dont find the idea that the government wasnt to give individuals the opportunity to have a microchip implanted as if we were some type of pet, troubling? You'd be going crazy if this was in a bill by Bush..
Guess what? If this were actually in the health care bill, the opponents of the bill would have made it perfectly clear to the American public and they would have been outraged.

Do you have any cognitive abilities?
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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So again you agree with me. There is no mandate.
I never said there was a mandate, the wording clearly offers it as an option. You are pretending I'm saying things again that I havent..
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But no, you're incorrect. I'd be upset (I don't go crazy) if the government prohibited someone from having a chip implanted if that's what he desired.
One could have an implant now, so tell me the point to adding something into a bill authorizing something individuals were already authorized to do? Who will put the data on the implant? Whats the point if it cant/wont be read?

I can see it now, person offering the implant "we offer this fabulous new technology that keeps people from pretending they are you, dont you want to protect your identity from all of those bad people out there"..

"of course I do.. please implant me now".

I find it odd that so many object to things like national drivers licenses, but are ok with people having chips implanted..
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:17 AM
 
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Do you have any cognitive abilities?
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe his chip is malfunctioning?
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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I find it odd that so many object to things like national drivers licenses, but are ok with people having chips implanted..
I find it odd, that YOU think people would be okay with this. I know I am not, no matter who is President.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:24 AM
 
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Guess what? If this were actually in the health care bill, the opponents of the bill would have made it perfectly clear to the American public and they would have been outraged.
Copy of the bill signed by law does not have the wording in it
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Senate_health_care_bill.pdf?tag=contentMain;conten tBody

But you dont find it troubling that ANYONE would suggest such things be made into law? Wow, the amount of excuses from those on the left is astounding..
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Do you have any cognitive abilities?
I never stated it was in the bill.. I CLEARLY said that it was in the OLD bill, and that I have no read the NEW version of the bill to see if it was there. Do YOU have cognitive abilities?
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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Hey, if it's on the internet, then it must be true!
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