Reid Compares Opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery (compared, leader)
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Honestly thats what gets me about blacks that just blindly follow the democrat party, They are following the party that wanted them to remain slaves. It makes no sense to me
Oh DEAR lord don't tell me you are THIS ignorant...
Trying to make political hay over political party stances from 150 years ago?
It is clear that you know zilch about the evolution of the political parties over time as the two have done an almost 180 degree role-reversal since the era of the Civil War.
Oh DEAR lord don't tell me you are THIS ignorant...
Trying to make political hay over political party stances from 150 years ago?
It is clear that you know zilch about the evolution of the political parties over time as the two have done an almost 180 degree role-reversal since the era of the Civil War.
As evidenced by some of the responses in this thread, few people know anything about the evolution of the two parties and even less about the history of 'slander', 'name-calling,' etc. that has always accompanied political discourse in this country. A simple google search will turn up many examples of the derogatory comments hurled at Lincoln during his campaign and presidency and his tenure certainly did not mark the beginning of such behavior.
I find it very interesting that so many people are up in arms about Mr. Reid's comments. He used a common rhetorical device, made a perfectly reasonable allusion to a past example of intractability on the part of some portion of the country's population, a portion I might add who believed in the same 'rightness' of their argument as those who now argue against health care reform with many of the same arguments (it will destroy the fabric of our economy, blah, blah, blah). Perhaps the uproar is due to people not wanting to be reminded of that dark side of our history.
I find his analogy perfectly apt - we are enslaved by the paradigm of employer-based health care, by our health histories, by the whims of insurance companies that take our money and then refuse to cover our claims effectively throwing millions of people into life-long debt.
The irony to me is that we, as a country, pride ourselves on being on the side of moral correctness, but when it comes to the most important indicators of that morality we are so often behind other countries and have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the light. So it was with slavery, and so it will be with health care reform.
It would seem to me that higher taxes and government interference in private choices is far more enslaving than the current system where a small minority don't have access or care to get health insurance.
To make that kind on comparison in his coments was a poor choice. The intent of what he was saying, is absolutely correct. The GOP has been and continues to use the tactic. The Dems are not opposed to using it either. The problem is, as he pointed out, America always needs our Repsentatives to work out solutions. To not engage in the process, degrades it. We are in a political position where one party holds most of the power, they will push thru a bill. Even the Democrat Leader knows that what bill gets thru, will be less than it could be, if the GOP continues to stay out of the development process. It is always important that our Reps work for us, but in these times, it's critically important. Sen Reid was "calling out" the GOP on this, and he should. And if you are a GOP supporter, you should aslo. The issue is too important!
Well, Bob, if the Republicans have not engaged in the process it's because they have been shut out of that process. The bill currently being debated in the Senate was written behind closed doors by Reid and Rahm Emanuel. To date every attempt by the Republicans to amend the bill, and thereby make it truly bipartisan, has been voted down by the Dem majority. Bottom line, however, if this bill fails to pass it will be because Democrats have failed to support it.
Reid is an unmitigated slime ball. Those who oppose his bill are not saying we're moving too fast on health care reform. They're saying that his version of "reform" is poison for our country. Contrary to his lying representations, Reid knows that the Republicans have offered a number of proposals that would actually result in lowering the cost of health care insurance and would not bankrupt the country. But he won't acknowledge that because the agenda is not to make health care affordable but to place health care in the hands of government. It's all about control.
Which is exactly what Reid tried to do but got caught.
No that isn't what he tried to do. He was making an analogy (and I'm not sure whether it was an appropriate one or not quite honestly)...
He didn't try to link the Republican Party to it's stance on slavery 150 years ago, or try to suggest that they were on the wrong side of history 150 years ago...
Apples and oranges.
Jadex is trying to credit today's Republican Party with freeing the slaves.... Today's Republican Party bears ZERO resemblance to the Republican Party of 1860...
Well, Bob, if the Republicans have not engaged in the process it's because they have been shut out of that process. The bill currently being debated in the Senate was written behind closed doors by Reid and Rahm Emanuel. To date every attempt by the Republicans to amend the bill, and thereby make it truly bipartisan, has been voted down by the Dem majority. Bottom line, however, if this bill fails to pass it will be because Democrats have failed to support it.
I know that is what the GOP is saying. However, it is not true. Last July the Repubs proposed 160 amendments, that were adopted, to the bill being consider then. When bill was voted voted on, zero Republican votes. Reid proposed Nov 30th, to post proposed amendments, along with who submitted them, online at the Senate web site. Repubs objected to that. Why?
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