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Old 10-22-2009, 07:28 PM
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True so true.
ok, so i see now that you finally understand that you jumped all over those 2 posters for nothing. They were for the testing.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:31 PM
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Thanks for posting those links, I mentioned earlier that this has been talked about for years now. I suspect the OP just doesn't want to hear about it & will still blame it all on Obama.
ok...1 form of cancer was talked about What about the other forms? Catching it early is the best bet without a doubt.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:31 PM
 
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Haven't we been berated as a society and a culture from the American Heart Association to the American Cancer Society, you name it? We have been beat over the head. "We must get tested! We must get tested early. We must get tested early and often! We must, we must, we must! You must, you must, you must! It will save us money. We will find ways to treat cancers before they become deadly, and we will save money."

Now all of a sudden it's overrated? Does the timing of this make anybody suspicious? Here we are in the midst of a free fall in support Obama's health care plan, not just the public option, but everything that's in it. And part of this is, "Well, too many tests are going on out there." Obama is running around saying (summarized) "We have too many tests and doctors are amputating too many feet and taking out too many tonsils to line their pockets -- and there's too much testing going on out there, and unnecessary tests are taking place, and this is driving up the costs," and just now conveniently here we are in the midst of the free fall in support, we get the American Cancer Society saying that there are "risks in early screenings and that the benefits of detecting many cancer..." Get that. "Detecting" means finding!

Suspicious Timing: Value of Early Cancer Screening "Overstated"?


Rush is completely right...Obama likes European health care and I've written before from my experience in Europe...only mammograms after the age of 50 or in case of a suspicious lumb...pap smear test only after the age of 30 (one of my family members was lucky to have it tested on request and was tested positive at the age of 27 and being cured)...prostate exams only when a male has certain complains....

It is cheaper to let some one die than to do all these test...wait for Obama care and you get your proof your self or be smart and vote for reform....

Ins. to be bought over State lines, limit the lawsuits and go after health care fraud, and you will have the money to ins. many more people without taken our rights from us!
This is shameful!
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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This has been talked about for a few years now? Funny, I've never heard this before. Please show us some older articles stating this. Thanks.
Don't know where you've been all these years. Anyway, I posted one upthread from 1996, a mere 13 years ago, and the research for that one was probably done ~ two years earlier.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:16 AM
 
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It's cheaper to wait until the cancer is too far along for treatment to be helpful at that stage. Take a pain pill and get admitted to hospice.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:07 AM
 
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Dude, you don't even know what you're saying. The drums being beat are by you because what they said went completely over your head there scholar.

First off not a dude. Secondly why don't you learn how to comprehend reading. At no point was a refering to the American Cancer society. For the record, i know EXACTLY what i'm talking about considering cancer has touched my family.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Haven't we been berated as a society and a culture from the American Heart Association to the American Cancer Society, you name it? We have been beat over the head. "We must get tested! We must get tested early. We must get tested early and often! We must, we must, we must! You must, you must, you must! It will save us money. We will find ways to treat cancers before they become deadly, and we will save money."
We have also been repeatedly lectured by the same proponents for 0bamaCare of the importance of preventive measures in health care. These people have been claiming that the uninsured are not receiving proper preventive care, which leads to undiagnosed illnesses that go untreated, until they call 911 and go to the emergency room.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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ok...1 form of cancer was talked about What about the other forms? Catching it early is the best bet without a doubt.
I never said it wasn't good to catch it early. You said you hadn't heard people talking about this before, I said I had.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:16 AM
 
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We have also been repeatedly lectured by the same proponents for 0bamaCare of the importance of preventive measures in health care. These people have been claiming that the uninsured are not receiving proper preventive care, which leads to undiagnosed illnesses that go untreated, until they call 911 and go to the emergency room.
Obama care will cut cost right away and probably every woman has to do the pap smear test at home and bring it in to be examened....that is what is next..the self kit pap smear test, can you image all these woman doing it at home.....what will be next then...give the flu shot at home to your kids?
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:33 AM
 
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Obama care will cut cost right away and probably every woman has to do the pap smear test at home and bring it in to be examened....that is what is next..the self kit pap smear test, can you image all these woman doing it at home.....what will be next then...give the flu shot at home to your kids?
Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what is going to happen, hillbilly pap smears. Give me a break, would you please use some logic in your posts? As for the flu shot, that would be more likely of a situation. If one can't give their child or family member a shot in the arm, somethings wrong there. It's not difficult to give a shot.
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